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Post by rockysmalls on Jan 1, 2022 12:20:43 GMT
So... While poking around the Cirrus circuit board today I thought I almost had it by disconnecting one of the pins from the processor, but then the issue persisted and while poking around the board I fried it... 
What I learned:
1. My focus on solving a problem sometimes overrules my better judgement.
2. Pin 29 does create random CV which i confirmed with both the meter module and by ear directing the pin to the cv input of an oscillator. This is the pin that is specified in the microcell schematic as the "aux internal_mod_raw" after severing the pin with a knife the random cv still continued... so i'm guessing all the software controls are controlling the output of pin 29 but the random cv is coming from elsewhere.
3. See #1.
I guess that's why it's called Abused Electronics? At least now I can just relax and until the original version of clouds for AE comes out  . was going to press the ‘like’ button ... but of course, there is NOTHING to ‘like’ about frying a, by now, rare board with over enthusiastic exploration, what is it they say? “if yr not failing , yr NOT learning” usually i fry things by plugging in an unlabeled AC power supply into a dc unit... DYMO labels are now my essential psu accessory  do you think it is ‘beyond’ repair ?? |
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Post by maydonpoliris on Jan 1, 2022 20:44:14 GMT
really hope there is somehow a fix for it.
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Post by robertlanger on Jan 2, 2022 10:40:16 GMT
So... While poking around the Cirrus circuit board today I thought I almost had it by disconnecting one of the pins from the processor, but then the issue persisted and while poking around the board I fried it... ... I guess that's why it's called Abused Electronics? At least now I can just relax and until the original version of clouds for AE comes out . as already written on FB, please send me your module - I will try to repair it. Please consider it as a warrantiy case ;-) And - wow - you still don't loose your humour - awesome! To all CIRRUS victims here: We will find a solution and you will definitely get what you deserve!  |
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Post by rockysmalls on Jan 2, 2022 11:31:44 GMT
So... While poking around the Cirrus circuit board today I thought I almost had it by disconnecting one of the pins from the processor, but then the issue persisted and while poking around the board I fried it...
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I guess that's why it's called Abused Electronics? At least now I can just relax and until the original version of clouds for AE comes out . as already written on FB, please send me your module - I will try to repair it. Please consider it as a warrantiy case ;-) And - wow - you still don't loose your humour - awesome! To all CIRRUS victims here: We will find a solution and you will definitely get what you deserve! “Cirrus Victims” ... sounds like another one of those bad climate incidents we are becoming very ‘acclimatised’ to! ( again, not really a laughing matter ) |
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Post by mrkoggs on Jan 2, 2022 16:10:21 GMT
So... While poking around the Cirrus circuit board today I thought I almost had it by disconnecting one of the pins from the processor, but then the issue persisted and while poking around the board I fried it...
What I learned:
1. My focus on solving a problem sometimes overrules my better judgement.
2. Pin 29 does create random CV which i confirmed with both the meter module and by ear directing the pin to the cv input of an oscillator. This is the pin that is specified in the microcell schematic as the "aux internal_mod_raw" after severing the pin with a knife the random cv still continued... so i'm guessing all the software controls are controlling the output of pin 29 but the random cv is coming from elsewhere.
3. See #1.
I guess that's why it's called Abused Electronics? At least now I can just relax and until the original version of clouds for AE comes out . Oh no! This has only made me more determined to get to the bottom of it to ensure that you didn't fry your chip in vain! Might avoid going near the hardware though... |
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Post by thehatghost on Jan 2, 2022 16:53:24 GMT
So... While poking around the Cirrus circuit board today I thought I almost had it by disconnecting one of the pins from the processor, but then the issue persisted and while poking around the board I fried it... as already written on FB, please send me your module - I will try to repair it. Please consider it as a warrantiy case ;-) And - wow - you still don't loose your humour - awesome! To all CIRRUS victims here: We will find a solution and you will definitely get what you deserve! Thanks Robert for going above and beyond, its really very kind for you to take a look considering that my activities were way off warranty / a reasonable expectation about how one should treat their electronics. Curiosity may have killed my cirrus module in this instance, but not my Enthusiasm for AE modular. I’ll get it in the mail this week (and if it turns out it is beyond repair please don’t worry, I knew the risks when I started exploring the board and knew the potential consequences) |
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Post by tIB on Jan 2, 2022 17:07:47 GMT
So... While poking around the Cirrus circuit board today I thought I almost had it by disconnecting one of the pins from the processor, but then the issue persisted and while poking around the board I fried it... ... I guess that's why it's called Abused Electronics? At least now I can just relax and until the original version of clouds for AE comes out . as already written on FB, please send me your module - I will try to repair it. Please consider it as a warrantiy case ;-) And - wow - you still don't loose your humour - awesome! To all CIRRUS victims here: We will find a solution and you will definitely get what you deserve! Outstanding service - happy new year Robert and co! |
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Post by maydonpoliris on Jan 2, 2022 19:32:08 GMT
as already written on FB, please send me your module - I will try to repair it. Please consider it as a warrantiy case ;-) And - wow - you still don't loose your humour - awesome! To all CIRRUS victims here: We will find a solution and you will definitely get what you deserve! Outstanding service - happy new year Robert and co! yes agree, this is very cool. |
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Post by admin on Jan 4, 2022 9:33:55 GMT
Hello all, just a quick update ... the bug has been found and fixed thanks to the amazing code sleuthing of visuellemusik and the initial ideas described here in this thread. The new firmware can easily be installed via audio. I'll announce the process and download link to the firmware soon in another thread once we got it all set up. Thanks to all of you, who have been so patient and dedicated to get to the bottom of this. In the end, the community won again! |
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Post by dizzeesatchel on Jan 4, 2022 9:54:32 GMT
That is excellent news! Thanks to everyone's hard work (and in some cases, sacrifices!) Installing updates by audio is cool too - big 80's home computing vibes |
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Post by tIB on Jan 4, 2022 14:23:23 GMT
Hello all, just a quick update ... the bug has been found and fixed thanks to the amazing code sleuthing of visuellemusik and the initial ideas described here in this thread. The new firmware can easily be installed via audio. I'll announce the process and download link to the firmware soon in another thread once we got it all set up. Thanks to all of you, who have been so patient and dedicated to get to the bottom of this. In the end, the community won again! Bravo - will the new firmware allow the modulation to be switched on and off or will it just remove it? |
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Post by thehatghost on Jan 4, 2022 16:14:56 GMT
Hello all, just a quick update ... the bug has been found and fixed thanks to the amazing code sleuthing of visuellemusik and the initial ideas described here in this thread. Thanks to all of you, who have been so patient and dedicated to get to the bottom of this. In the end, the community won again! Ah, our c wizard visuellemusik rides from the darkness to bring light to those in cirrus village! This is fantastic news. Thanks all, and apologies for any kind of fuss that I may have caused. Also, for curiosity’s sake what was the bug? |
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Post by pt3r on Jan 4, 2022 17:19:04 GMT
Wow excellent news indeed. How can we upload this fix in our own CIRRUS modules?
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Post by mrkoggs on Jan 4, 2022 20:51:44 GMT
fantastic news! excellent work visuellemusikI'm intrigued to know what the bug was as well |
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Post by lukylutte on Jan 5, 2022 7:18:26 GMT
That's great! If anyone got two of those a side by side test (updated Vs not updated) could be nice? I always use the cirrus in complexe patch so I haven't really notice anything too disturbing. However, my jam partners often mentioned how interesting my choices of atonality is somehow intriguing at times 😅🤪. Let's see 😁
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Post by admin on Jan 5, 2022 7:37:33 GMT
Wow excellent news indeed. How can we upload this fix in our own CIRRUS modules? The firmware will be distributed as an audio file (.wav) which you then play from your PC to the left audio input of the CIRRUS (via Master or 4I/O). Detailed instructions will be provided once the firmware is finalised. |
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Post by pt3r on Jan 5, 2022 7:55:24 GMT
 Wow I did not realize that the Cirrus could be programmed like that. Excellent forward thinking design! Thank you robertlanger and AE for never stopping to amaze me with your customer support, this is how you build a solid customer base. And a big shoutout to visuellemusik for finding the bug. We will keep the memory of Cirrus module of thehatghost alive, its sacrifice was not in vain.
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Post by maydonpoliris on Jan 5, 2022 9:49:26 GMT
yes pretty cool and nice one visuellemusik much appreciated and of course all that fell before him. Of course I'm going to load the Cirrus firmware into the Core.ae to see what happens........ or vice versa........ |
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Post by pt3r on Jan 5, 2022 10:08:35 GMT
yes pretty cool and nice one visuellemusik much appreciated and of course all that fell before him. Of course I'm going to load the Cirrus firmware into the Core.ae to see what happens........ or vice versa........ Let's hope that It simply doesn't work without you bricking any of the modules. We managed to brick arduinos and grains modules by uploading buggy firmware, so please be careful. Also, CIRRUS firmware will never fit on a core module. |
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Post by maydonpoliris on Jan 5, 2022 10:26:10 GMT
yes pretty cool and nice one visuellemusik much appreciated and of course all that fell before him. Of course I'm going to load the Cirrus firmware into the Core.ae to see what happens........ or vice versa........ Let's hope that It simply doesn't work without you bricking any of the modules. We managed to brick arduinos and grains modules by uploading buggy firmware, so please be careful. Also, CIRRUS firmware will never fit on a core module. Yes probably shouldn't even entertaining the idea. |
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Post by admin on Jan 5, 2022 11:06:57 GMT
yes pretty cool and nice one visuellemusik much appreciated and of course all that fell before him. Of course I'm going to load the Cirrus firmware into the Core.ae to see what happens........ or vice versa........ Please don't! Although, if you do fry your Cirrus or core.ae .. you know where to get a new one  |
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Post by pt3r on Jan 5, 2022 18:14:45 GMT
I hope the 'bug' can remain available as a feature in the firmware.
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Post by maydonpoliris on Jan 5, 2022 18:48:40 GMT
yes pretty cool and nice one visuellemusik much appreciated and of course all that fell before him. Of course I'm going to load the Cirrus firmware into the Core.ae to see what happens........ or vice versa........ Please don't! Although, if you do fry your Cirrus or core.ae .. you know where to get a new one   yes I do! |
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Post by tIB on Jan 5, 2022 19:27:33 GMT
I hope the 'bug' can remain available as a feature in the firmware. It should be that a button combination press enables/disables it. |
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Post by pt3r on Jan 5, 2022 19:35:23 GMT
I hope the 'bug' can remain available as a feature in the firmware. It should be that a button combination press enables/disables it. +1 |
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Wow I did not realize that the Cirrus could be programmed like that. Excellent forward thinking design! Thank you 
yes I do!