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Post by admin on Sept 10, 2021 11:07:49 GMT
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Post by admin on Sept 15, 2021 9:41:17 GMT
Just in case you wondered, how many plugins are included in this module, here is a list: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dBZtuBIdtgMqoRruYX-VDdDirdTQ6RD-oz-j79q-bmQ/edit?usp=sharingOne important difference from the AE TBD to the Eurorack version is, that the AE TBD is mono only. But this means that stereo plugins still work, just that their output is mixed to one channel. The other change is that the AE TBD doesn't use WIFI, but you connect it via a USB cable to your PC. This is due to the fact that WIFI would draw too much power. |
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Post by funbun on Sept 15, 2021 10:06:39 GMT
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Post by pt3r on Sept 15, 2021 10:31:54 GMT
Is there more info on the development environment? Will this be available to macos?
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Post by admin on Sept 15, 2021 10:41:51 GMT
Is there more info on the development environment? Will this be available to macos? It's all on GitHub. We have forked the main repo, so that we can start adding more AE specific code: github.com/aemodular/ctag-tbdGetting the dev environment up and running is a bit tricky especially on Windows. Linux and MacOS is a bit easier, but there are a lot of dependencies. Therefore we have built actions on GitHub and the easiest is to fork the repo, make a change, push and then let the GitHub action do the build for you. I'll document that over the next couple of days/weeks. |
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Post by lukylutte on Sept 15, 2021 10:44:26 GMT
There's a sampler on the list. Would be nice to have a bit more on that and if a stand alone SD card sample player is still in development...
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Post by lukylutte on Sept 15, 2021 10:52:35 GMT
Sorry, was on my phone checking the list and just realized after 10min there links for everything! 😅.
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Post by admin on Sept 15, 2021 10:54:22 GMT
There's a sampler on the list. Would be nice to have a bit more on that and if a stand alone SD card sample player is still in development... So the sampler uses a sample library which is flashed together with the firmware. The nitty gritty details are listed here: github.com/aemodular/ctag-tbd/tree/master/sample_romTBD's stock configuration reserves 5MiB of flash memory (highest 5MiB of overall 16MiB system flash) for sample rom. This corresponds to approx. 59s of sample memory (TBD operates at 44.1kHz, data format in flash is 16 bit integer). The first 1MiB of storage is dedicated to wavetable data. There are two plugins currently which make use of this data: RomplerA mono sample playback device with comprehensive functionality, which allows to playback sample sections from sample rom. Features of Rompler include: - User samples - Sample selection (CV) - Variable playback speed +/-200% (EG/LFO/CV) - Pitch / pitch modulation (EG/LFO/CV) - Play modes single-shot, loop, ping-pong, latch - Loop markers within selected samples - ADSR EG - Sine wave LFO - Amplitude modulated with EG/LFO/CV - SVF filter modulated with EG/LFO/CV - Mono / duophonic voice allocation WTOscA basic wavetable oscillator using the 1MiB of wavetable ROM at the beginning of the sample rom section. Users can create and upload their own wavetables e.g. created with waveeditonline.com/ . This oscillator makes use of the plaits wavetable oscillator implementation (again, kudos to E. Gillet!!!), but using user wavetable data from TBD's sample ROM. Features of WTOsc include: - User wavetables - Wavetable (CV) - Wavetable bank switching (not per CV as pre slower pre-calculations are required) - Z-morphing within a bank (EG, LFO, CV) - Pitch / pitch modulation (EG, LFO, CV) - ADSR EG - Amplitude modulated with EG/LFO/CV - SVF filter modulated with EG/LFO/CV |
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Post by humpink on Sept 15, 2021 11:09:13 GMT
Insert "shut up and take my money" meme here  |
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Post by robertlanger on Sept 15, 2021 11:10:32 GMT
There's a sampler on the list. Would be nice to have a bit more on that and if a stand alone SD card sample player is still in development... Yes, the standalone SD card sampleplayer is still in development! TBD has a quite different approach, so it still makes lot of sense for that. |
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Post by pt3r on Sept 15, 2021 11:28:46 GMT
One more rack...  |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 15, 2021 13:48:03 GMT
AH! Mathias (Brüssel) or visuellemusik was talking to me about this many moons ago!! is any of his stuff for TBD ported to this ? or probably ANY TBD firmwares work in this iteration? exciting news on many fronts ... |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 15, 2021 13:58:30 GMT
ok so it has Rings AND plaits from MI in there and LOTS of great stuff from Mathias!! :]
and IT'S ONLY 2U!!!
it's a yes from me
( would have liked more knobs though ;~> )
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 15, 2021 14:06:12 GMT
There's a sampler on the list. Would be nice to have a bit more on that and if a stand alone SD card sample player is still in development... Yes, the standalone SD card sampleplayer is still in development! TBD has a quite different approach, so it still makes lot of sense for that. do I have this right.... that you can have a lot of the plug-ins already in the module memory and you just load them using menu selection, display etc ... so you only have to use the usb to add NEW firmwares with updated and new plugins? |
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Post by lukylutte on Sept 15, 2021 14:20:39 GMT
Yes, the standalone SD card sampleplayer is still in development! TBD has a quite different approach, so it still makes lot of sense for that. do I have this right.... that you can have a lot of the plug-ins already in the module memory and you just load them using menu selection, display etc ... so you only have to use the usb to add NEW firmwares with updated and new plugins? I understood the same. Anyway, it's a must have again 🤣 |
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Post by funbun on Sept 15, 2021 15:37:34 GMT
What!?!?! WoW! This is better than the Disting Eurorack module!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 16:05:38 GMT
I'm guessing alot of this will be answered at the booth but is there any insight on the availability of the parts needed to make this module and the distribution to the distributors? just wondering if this is a 2021 thing or a 2022. really exciting module regardless.....
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 15, 2021 16:15:46 GMT
What!?!?! WoW! This is better than the Disting Eurorack module! well .... i might be just be being super optimistic on that front... so nobody quote me on that ... but it would make more sense for it having a display , which the actual TBD doesn't.. i'm imagining ( again... pie in the sky but based on that photo ) that you make up presets with plugins you want in there and can load them from the rom stuff?? it will be amazing if it can do such things ... yet still amazing even if that's not the case.... |
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Post by tIB on Sept 15, 2021 16:29:48 GMT
And here's me thinking of a second grains... Take my money! Talking of which what's the entry price?
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 15, 2021 17:26:07 GMT
And here's me thinking of a second grains... Take my money! Talking of which what's the entry price? and indeed , given the current chippety hoohaar ... WHEN? |
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Post by lukylutte on Sept 15, 2021 17:28:49 GMT
From the blog: "The module can connect to a PC running Windows, Linux, or MacOSX via a USB cable and the many parameters for each plugin can then be adjusted in real time via a web interface and stored as favourites back to the module for standalone performance."
Favourites with a s several should be ready to be used... 🤞
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Post by MikMo on Sept 15, 2021 17:53:45 GMT
I will need a full 1x20 rack of these :-)
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Post by visuellemusik on Sept 15, 2021 17:55:43 GMT
What!?!?! WoW! This is better than the Disting Eurorack module! well .... i might be just be being super optimistic on that front... so nobody quote me on that ... but it would make more sense for it having a display , which the actual TBD doesn't.. i'm imagining ( again... pie in the sky but based on that photo ) that you make up presets with plugins you want in there and can load them from the rom stuff?? it will be amazing if it can do such things ... yet still amazing even if that's not the case.... just wanted to point out some details about the TBD for AE Modular's plugins and userinterface, especially in comarison with the Eurorack TBDs:
First of all, thanks to Robert Manzke, the inventor of the whole TBD-technology, the current code-base for all variants of TBD is identical. github.com/ctag-fh-kiel/ctag-tbdOf course there are differences in the hardware but that's handled inside the development environment so to say. The main difference is, that the AEM TBD is Mono, but you can also run stereo-plugins and decide how the channels will be summed up. You even can daisy-chain slot 1 to slot 2, so have an effect on a synth for instance. Also the AEM TBD does not support WiFi, one reason being to keep the power-consumption low, as it is typical for the AEM technology.
Once a module is flashed with the current firmware, all available plugins (instruments or effects or any combination of that) are stored inside the module.
Some of my plugins are implemented in stereo, even though they basically are still mono for a different reason: this way they can use all the MCU's power, whereas two plugins obviously have to share resources.
You can select and configure the plugins via a webinterface. Here is a video how this works with an older version of the firmware and the CTAG (Eurorack) TBD, that should give you a pretty good idea about the process:
Again, the handling and the Webinterface is identical with the AEM version. In the video you see the usage of WiFi, whereas the AEM TBD has to be connected
via USB for this task. There is a little adapter-software to enable your browser to talk to the TBD, which is available for MacOS, Linux and Windows.
Via the Webinterface you can select up to two plugins within two different slots, you can select (or of course create!) presets for the plugins and assign the controls (2*CV, 2*Pot, 2*Trigger) of the hardware-TBD to various parameters, which of course differ per plugin. It's even possible to access more than one parameter per control. The setting for this can be stored as a preset for a specific plugin.
With the latest firmware you even can store and recall combinations of plugins and presets as "favorites" (by name) via the webinterface. These favourites also can be selected directly via the AEM TBD panel and its display.
So in essence one typical workflow would be to setup a bunch of favorites via the webinterface, which on save will automatically be stored inside the TBD module and then later select and play them with the TBD inside the AEM without any further need of a computer nearby.
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 15, 2021 18:56:04 GMT
well .... i might be just be being super optimistic on that front... so nobody quote me on that ... but it would make more sense for it having a display , which the actual TBD doesn't.. i'm imagining ( again... pie in the sky but based on that photo ) that you make up presets with plugins you want in there and can load them from the rom stuff?? it will be amazing if it can do such things ... yet still amazing even if that's not the case.... just wanted to point out some details about the TBD for AE Modular's plugins and userinterface, especially in comarison with the Eurorack TBDs:
First of all, thanks to Robert Manzke, the inventor of the whole TBD-technology, the current code-base for all variants of TBD is identical. github.com/ctag-fh-kiel/ctag-tbdOf course there are differences in the hardware but that's handled inside the development environment so to say. The main difference is, that the AEM TBD is Mono, but you can also run stereo-plugins and decide how the channels will be summed up. You even can daisy-chain slot 1 to slot 2, so have an effect on a synth for instance. Also the AEM TBD does not support WiFi, one reason being to keep the power-consumption low, as it is typical for the AEM technology.
Once a module is flashed with the current firmware, all available plugins (instruments or effects or any combination of that) are stored inside the module.
Some of my plugins are implemented in stereo, even though they basically are still mono for a different reason: this way they can use all the MCU's power, whereas two plugins obviously have to share resources.
You can select and configure the plugins via a webinterface. Here is a video how this works with an older version of the firmware and the CTAG (Eurorack) TBD, that should give you a pretty good idea about the process:
Again, the handling and the Webinterface is identical with the AEM version. In the video you see the usage of WiFi, whereas the AEM TBD has to be connected
via USB for this task. There is a little adapter-software to enable your browser to talk to the TBD, which is available for MacOS, Linux and Windows.
Via the Webinterface you can select up to two plugins within two different slots, you can select (or of course create!) presets for the plugins and assign the controls (2*CV, 2*Pot, 2*Trigger) of the hardware-TBD to various parameters, which of course differ per plugin. It's even possible to assing more than one parameter per control. The setting for this can be stored as a preset for a specific plugin.
With the latest firmware you even can store and recall combinations of plugins and presets as "favorites" (by name) via the webinterface. These favourites also can be selected directly via the AEM TBD panel and its display.
So in essence one typical workflow would be to setup a bunch of favorites via the webinterface, which on save will automatically be stored inside the TBD module and then later select and play them with the TBD inside the AEM without any further need of a computer nearby.
HURRAH! ... so not too far from my dubious speculation  . plus "access (assing?) more than one parameter per control". a bit Nord Modular morph maybe? an even bigger hurrah to ALL the Roberts and Mathias and anybody else involved in bringing this to reality.. and then again to AE reality... at times like these i wish i had a "code writer" part in my brain... |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 15, 2021 18:59:29 GMT
oh and visuellemusikhow many 'favourites' can you have in the AE TBD? |
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SupAErGrains! 
. plus "access (assing?) more than one parameter per control". a bit Nord Modular morph maybe?