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Post by rodney on Oct 25, 2019 6:42:06 GMT
I have some round ones from ebay too, but the new patch cables are to big for them. I wish I had read that back when you posted it. I kinda assumed the snap-off headers would fit the new cables. Lots of de-soldering to do now!
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Post by slowscape on Oct 25, 2019 20:31:29 GMT
I have some round ones from ebay too, but the new patch cables are to big for them. I kinda assumed the snap-off headers would fit the new cables. If anyone finds the size that works, post a link
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Post by rodney on Oct 25, 2019 21:52:22 GMT
I kinda assumed the snap-off headers would fit the new cables. If anyone finds the size that works, post a link Maybe robertlanger could have a DIY section in the store for items like this that would help people cooking up their own modules? That said, the new patch cables sit quite firmly even in the old-style female headers, even though they don't look as snazzy as the new machined-style ones. that's what I will be using for the first few prototypes as I sort out the various other mistakes I'm making.
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Post by bahm on Oct 30, 2019 21:25:20 GMT
I have some round ones from ebay too, but the new patch cables are to big for them. I wish I had read that back when you posted it. I kinda assumed the snap-off headers would fit the new cables. Lots of de-soldering to do now! I tested them before building.... But it was luck. Normally all I do works this way: Sometimes you loose and sometimes the others win.
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Post by ben on Jan 10, 2020 21:55:25 GMT
NightMachines Hey! Did you managed to solder VCDO chip? I was wandering if it's actually doable with rail-to-rail op-amp to equalise required inverted voltage input in order to get a "proper notation" from 0 to 5V.
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Post by NightMachines on Jan 12, 2020 10:37:00 GMT
NightMachines Hey! Did you managed to solder VCDO chip? I was wandering if it's actually doable with rail-to-rail op-amp to equalise required inverted voltage input in order to get a "proper notation" from 0 to 5V. I haven’t looked into that yet. I’ll get back into DIY once my new AEM cases and blank panels arrive. However, I just googled a bit and found a differential amplifier circuit, which acts as a voltage subtractor with offset. So a 0V input would result in a 5V output and vice versa, i.e. the input voltage is subtracted from 5V, basically inverting the signal and offsetting it to a 0-5V range (so not going negative). In my simulation app iCircuit this seems to work. I don’t know about the best resistor values to use and just chose 50k ... maybe someone else has a recommendation for a better value? The resistors all have to be the same value though. Here’s the circuit with a simulation result: Again, the purple resistor values are just put in there without knowing anything. Haha. Results seem fine though.
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Post by ben on Jan 12, 2020 16:32:10 GMT
haha. Cool! Thanks NightMachinesGuess I'll just order one chip and try something like that. I had the similar idea, have a few MCP602's laying around, maybe those will do the job. Will let you know if I'll manage to DIY it faster than you
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Post by young Protoboard on Jan 16, 2020 19:35:25 GMT
I don’t know about the best resistor values to use and just chose 50k ... maybe someone else has a recommendation for a better value? The resistors all have to be the same value though. The next consideration for choosing purple resistor values in this design would generally be ensuring that components aren't going to get fried from excessive current and/or power. For example, input pins on many op-amps must have the current sent to them be within the milli- or microamp range, outlined in its datasheet. In your case, a 50kOhm resistor facing the highest expected input voltage value of 5V, after simplifying into Ohm's Law (V=iR), would limit the current to the input pins to a maximum of 100 microAmps. I haven't looked at any Electronic Druid chip's datasheet, so I can't say determinedly if that's safe, but it probably is. It's also possible to burn out those resistors if the power they dissipate is beyond their rated maximum. Power, P, given in Watts, dissipated across a simple resistive component, is given by P=iV. Assuming that no freak accidents occur, these resistors could see a 5V drop, and we've already determined that shoving 5V through a 50kOhm resistor in worst case scenario yields 100microAmps. So the resistors in your circuit could encounter up to... 0.0005 Watts. Many THT resistors have a nominal power rating of 1/4 W, which is five-hundred times greater than the expected load. I'm pretty sure those resistors will survive! Generally, in the 0-5V world, 1/4W, kOhm-range resistors are going to survive most applications and keep other components safe. But it's important to check datasheets and determine these current and power values for each unique circuit. Tl;dr: 50kOhm is pretty good for this circuit on this day with the sky this color and in this economy
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Post by NightMachines on Jan 16, 2020 19:40:16 GMT
Thank you very much for doing some calculations! I always shy away from those. I chose 50k because it seemed like a common value in music electronics.
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Post by young Protoboard on Jan 16, 2020 19:52:40 GMT
Of course! Personally, I love the math, and anything else that helps to reassure me that I'm not going to burn my house down. 0-5V audio circuits are like Lego; they can be pulled apart and bolted together in fairly safe ways with the correct components. See a spaceship? Build a spaceship. Just not with low-value feedback and input resistors, or any direct shorts from V+ to ground
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Post by ben on Jan 27, 2020 20:49:30 GMT
So the test was done, NightMachines , and it works. So thanks again for that and also thanks young Protoboard for the calculation! 51k ohm seems to do the job just fine. Op-amp: MCP602. And for the 18kHz Bessel filter on the VCDO output I used LM358's (one for Sub osc and one for main osc out). Looking forward to finish soldering this one 'cause it sounds so good, oh just love switching between different waveforms while playing... 😌
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Post by NightMachines on Jan 28, 2020 20:01:15 GMT
Awesome! I have the VCO in Eurorack format and it’s really fun with the two oscillators in one. Can’t wait to build my own!
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Post by ben on Jan 29, 2020 8:32:20 GMT
NightMachines - don't know which schematics you have, but there's a correct one (on electric-druid's page there's an error on the input cv signals, the rest is fine):
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Post by ben on Feb 9, 2020 10:36:23 GMT
A quick jam done yesterday, using VCDO's both oscillators. Other than that - for the drum sounds two T-Twin filters. For the sound processing used AE Modular's Delay and MultiFX + iPad for heavy post-processing compression, saturation and limiter.
List of used DIY modules: 2x T-Twin drums 2x ADSR's 1x Tap tempo LFO 1x VCDO 2x CD4069 chip filters 1x double 10step sequencer 1x step/frequency divider
List of used AE modules: 1x Wasp filter 1x Delay 1x MultiFX 1x 4Att/Mix
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Post by rodney on Feb 11, 2020 0:46:34 GMT
Hey Ben, what apps are you using on the iPad for recording, mastering etc.?
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Post by ben on Feb 11, 2020 8:33:21 GMT
Hey Ben, what apps are you using on the iPad for recording, mastering etc.? Most of the times I'm using AUM app, which is a sort of everything-in-one-place thing. For this particular case used it's internal "Hard Clip" and "Peak Limiter" effects, plus additional third-party plugins "JAX !Make Louder" for maximising, and "Beatformer" by Accusonus for heavy compression. Oh and "Eos 2" reverb by Audio Damage But if you wanna do mastering I'd suggest Cubasis app, it supports Waves plugins (AudioTrack Channel Strip, L1 Ultramaximizer and Q10 Equalizer). Just have to purchase those separately.
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