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Post by admin on Sept 20, 2021 2:19:14 GMT
Many thanks to rockysmalls for scouring the interwebs and collating all the information required to make the most of the CIRRUS module. He sent me this very concise PDF guide and all I had to do was put in on the Wiki. Read all about the 8 different modes of the CIRRUS here: wiki.aemodular.com/pmwiki.php/AeManual/CIRRUS |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 20, 2021 9:51:52 GMT
I don’t know about anyone else ,, but for me the CIRRUS definitely needs a manual open whilst patching etc.. depending on the mode it can be essential.. I prefer a paper manual as i don’t want to have the ipad open all the time just to refer to written things PLUS i like a manual to be compact... though not to the point of having to squint... my print apps don’t seem to have a helpful mode to print PDFs etc 2 up or other ways. ... So here is the cirrus manual as A4 proportion TIFs- 2 pages up on each .. so foldable to a handy small A5 and still quite readable for me at least. it doesn’t fit quite as nicely on american letter size but is still doable I think.. www.dropbox.com/s/f958iylebzysgol/CIRRUSmanual-A4printx2pgUP.zip |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Sept 20, 2021 10:09:37 GMT
For the 'main' mode, after some training, the knob names are (almost) sufficient to patch without manual for me. But when entering another mode... Yeah its necessary to have a manual at the ready. Just like when altering Topographs more 'hidden' functions.
Not my favorite thing to do, which is why I've stuck mostly to the main algo (which is great in its own right). And also one of the reasons why I do enjoy Roberts OG modules so much in general: clear, effective, and no manual-diving needed.
Edit: and a big thank you for all the wiki and manual work, you Rocky!
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Post by dizzeesatchel on Sept 20, 2021 11:04:56 GMT
This is brilliant! Thank you. Gosh this module is even more complex than I thought, but there's loads of essential info here, i couldn't even figure out what was going on with the L and R inputs sometimes  |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 20, 2021 12:06:11 GMT
thanks peoples ... it was as much for my benefit as anything  and it will probably need editing as further things get found out ... eg : the DEADZONE i mention in Density on the first granular mode .. its range seems to relate to the current Size setting so more fiddling and note taking will be needed for a full explanation! plus we haven!t broached the subject of the internal random CVs ,,, i suspect that patching a constant CV to the cv inputs will override that , but i currently have the Cirrus in a tiny 12u case for focus and don’t have a ATT knob installed to attentuate a 5v cv to check this.. any info anybody finds out that could do with going in there would be nice to know and i can get it in there next edit.. |
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Post by MikMo on Sept 20, 2021 12:32:40 GMT
Quote from the (brilliant) manual:
"All CV inputs are calibrated for a range of +/- 5V (?? check with Robert)"
That is probably 0-5V i would guess.
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 20, 2021 14:06:20 GMT
Quote from the (brilliant) manual: "All CV inputs are calibrated for a range of +/- 5V (?? check with Robert)" That is probably 0-5V i would guess. yes, there is a few of those (check?) things still,, 0-5v made sense but I guess only Robert can tell us if he imported the firmware wholesale and how much he adapted things like that to AEland? though i believe we can do -5v with the polarisers etc .. robertlanger .. when you’re back from Berlin maybe a word from the wise i will check it when i have the cirrus connected to the bigger rig... |
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Post by funbun on Sept 20, 2021 14:09:21 GMT
I thought Cirrus was mono only?
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 20, 2021 14:15:32 GMT
I though Cirrus was mono only? nope,, maybe you’re thinking if the upcoming TBD?? but Cirrus does stereo in and out and even the mono audio quality settings spurt things around in the stereo field if you put the ‘pan’ on full.. I’m thoroughly enjoying AE with a certain sense of space to it |
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Post by funbun on Sept 20, 2021 15:47:03 GMT
Ahh, that's where I got confused, Thanks!
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Post by tIB on Sept 20, 2021 17:50:00 GMT
thanks peoples ... it was as much for my benefit as anything and it will probably need editing as further things get found out ... eg : the DEADZONE i mention in Density on the first granular mode .. its range seems to relate to the current Size setting so more fiddling and note taking will be needed for a full explanation! plus we haven!t broached the subject of the internal random CVs ,,, i suspect that patching a constant CV to the cv inputs will override that , but i currently have the Cirrus in a tiny 12u case for focus and don’t have a ATT knob installed to attentuate a 5v cv to check this.. any info anybody finds out that could do with going in there would be nice to know and i can get it in there next edit.. I tried patching fixed 5v into each of the inputs but couldn't override the internal modulation that way. The question is, which of you smart folk will recode the firmware so pushing both mutes does this?! |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 20, 2021 17:51:48 GMT
thanks peoples ... it was as much for my benefit as anything and it will probably need editing as further things get found out ... eg : the DEADZONE i mention in Density on the first granular mode .. its range seems to relate to the current Size setting so more fiddling and note taking will be needed for a full explanation! plus we haven!t broached the subject of the internal random CVs ,,, i suspect that patching a constant CV to the cv inputs will override that , but i currently have the Cirrus in a tiny 12u case for focus and don’t have a ATT knob installed to attentuate a 5v cv to check this.. any info anybody finds out that could do with going in there would be nice to know and i can get it in there next edit.. I tried patching fixed 5v into each of the inputs but couldn't override the internal modulation that way. The question is, which of you smart folk will recode the firmware so pushing both mutes does this?! fingers crossed, it’s not in my skill set i’m afraid.. |
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Post by S&E on Oct 7, 2021 23:55:08 GMT
I am looking forward to when these become available. I have the space set aside for it.
I also just ordered the Beads and I have Polyend Tracker as well so I feel I have granular covered, but I have a question.
I read that the Cirrus sample time is very small. Now, I know this isn't meant to be a sampler as such but it has multiple banks/slots for sounds right? But how can those slots be of much use with only 2-4 seconds max? Why so low? Is it by choice or is it some inherent limit? Can it be increased, let's say doubled at least?
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Post by rockysmalls on Oct 8, 2021 11:20:38 GMT
I am looking forward to when these become available. I have the space set aside for it. I also just ordered the Beads and I have Polyend Tracker as well so I feel I have granular covered, but I have a question. I read that the Cirrus sample time is very small. Now, I know this isn't meant to be a sampler as such but it has multiple banks/slots for sounds right? But how can those slots be of much use with only 2-4 seconds max? Why so low? Is it by choice or is it some inherent limit? Can it be increased, let's say doubled at least? well technically I CAN double it for you the maximum buffer length is 8 seconds at the 16khz 8bit ‘crunchy’ depth .. and there are 4 buffer save slots that will hold the sounds with the preset settings even if everything is turned off and you come back to it days later.. granted it isn’t so much by todays standards .. a whole 32 seconds !! but it isn’t really a sampler ‘as such’ the modes that work that way are sort of “buffer shufflers” meant to act on live sound inputs .. much like the granular settings and it’s just the freeze state that is being saved.. it will be interesting to see what can be done with the upcoming TBD with it’s 60 seconds potential of memory .. which is pretty much what i had in my Akai S01 after it had the ram doubled back in the early 90’s !! “Memories!” 🎼 ( see what I did there? ) all due credit to Ms Streisand |
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Post by S&E on Oct 8, 2021 22:32:22 GMT
I am looking forward to when these become available. I have the space set aside for it. I also just ordered the Beads and I have Polyend Tracker as well so I feel I have granular covered, but I have a question. I read that the Cirrus sample time is very small. Now, I know this isn't meant to be a sampler as such but it has multiple banks/slots for sounds right? But how can those slots be of much use with only 2-4 seconds max? Why so low? Is it by choice or is it some inherent limit? Can it be increased, let's say doubled at least? well technically I CAN double it for you the maximum buffer length is 8 seconds at the 16khz 8bit ‘crunchy’ depth .. and there are 4 buffer save slots that will hold the sounds with the preset settings even if everything is turned off and you come back to it days later.. granted it isn’t so much by todays standards .. a whole 32 seconds !! but it isn’t really a sampler ‘as such’ the modes that work that way are sort of “buffer shufflers” meant to act on live sound inputs .. much like the granular settings and it’s just the freeze state that is being saved.. it will be interesting to see what can be done with the upcoming TBD with it’s 60 seconds potential of memory .. which is pretty much what i had in my Akai S01 after it had the ram doubled back in the early 90’s !! “Memories!” 🎼 ( see what I did there? ) all due credit to Ms Streisand I think the 8-bit in stereo is what's up for me. |
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Post by pt3r on Oct 9, 2021 7:57:51 GMT
I am looking forward to when these become available. I have the space set aside for it. I also just ordered the Beads and I have Polyend Tracker as well so I feel I have granular covered, but I have a question. I read that the Cirrus sample time is very small. Now, I know this isn't meant to be a sampler as such but it has multiple banks/slots for sounds right? But how can those slots be of much use with only 2-4 seconds max? Why so low? Is it by choice or is it some inherent limit? Can it be increased, let's say doubled at least? well technically I CAN double it for you the maximum buffer length is 8 seconds at the 16khz 8bit ‘crunchy’ depth .. and there are 4 buffer save slots that will hold the sounds with the preset settings even if everything is turned off and you come back to it days later.. granted it isn’t so much by todays standards .. a whole 32 seconds !! but it isn’t really a sampler ‘as such’ the modes that work that way are sort of “buffer shufflers” meant to act on live sound inputs .. much like the granular settings and it’s just the freeze state that is being saved.. it will be interesting to see what can be done with the upcoming TBD with it’s 60 seconds potential of memory .. which is pretty much what i had in my Akai S01 after it had the ram doubled back in the early 90’s !! “Memories!” 🎼 ( see what I did there? ) all due credit to Ms Streisand Ah yes, good ol' Roland W30 was also capable of doubling its sampling time to a whopping 30 something seconds by almost halving its sampling rate. Good times. |
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