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Post by dizzeesatchel on Jan 5, 2022 10:01:41 GMT
Ok this is one that's been bugging me since i started with AE but i always assumed i was misunderstanding or doing something wrong:
I've got a few filters installed - SV, WASP, and MS20 - each of them has a H and L input. The wiki pages for these modules all state that the H input is the 'main' input and L is mixed in at a lower level but i swear it's the other way round for me on every filter i've used. Am i imagining it or patching it wrong or....? I always use the L input (rarely send two signals into the same filter tbh) and it always seems a lot louder that way. Am i going mad?
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Post by pol on Jan 5, 2022 15:18:30 GMT
You've intrigued me, I haven't noticed that behavior - I use the multiple ins a lot to avoid needing more mixer modules. I am unlikely to be in the studio before this weekend, so if nobody answers before then.....
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Post by pt3r on Jan 5, 2022 15:37:20 GMT
I'm also intrigued, will have a look later today and do some comparison via the meter module to see what's up.
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Post by tIB on Jan 5, 2022 18:00:01 GMT
Ok this is one that's been bugging me since i started with AE but i always assumed i was misunderstanding or doing something wrong: I've got a few filters installed - SV, WASP, and MS20 - each of them has a H and L input. The wiki pages for these modules all state that the H input is the 'main' input and L is mixed in at a lower level but i swear it's the other way round for me on every filter i've used. Am i imagining it or patching it wrong or....? I always use the L input (rarely send two signals into the same filter tbh) and it always seems a lot louder that way. Am i going mad? I think you have it wrong and I made the same mistake - the h and l inputs are not for mixing, they are for a low of high signal (I may have the wording wrong there), so the lower one will indeed make the signal louder. Mixing is supposed to be done prior to sending to either input. |
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Post by pt3r on Jan 5, 2022 18:11:29 GMT
Indeed the manual/wiki is confusing i checked with the meter and the output is higher when you plug the signals in the Low level input than when you plug it into the High input.
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Post by dizzeesatchel on Jan 5, 2022 19:47:35 GMT
Ooohh i get what you're saying - so 'high' and 'low' refers to the signal level they accept rather than the level they produce. Gotcha! Probably the wiki pages could be clearer on this (although i haven't seen anyone else question it before so maybe people are just figuring it out themselves!)
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Post by pt3r on Jan 5, 2022 20:00:02 GMT
Ooohh i get what you're saying - so 'high' and 'low' refers to the signal level they accept rather than the level they produce. Gotcha! Probably the wiki pages could be clearer on this (although i haven't seen anyone else question it before so maybe people are just figuring it out themselves!)
I also plugged my signals by default in the High input, will probably use the Low input more now. |
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Post by admin on Jan 5, 2022 20:42:13 GMT
I've sent a request to Robert to get to the bottom of this and once I have a definite description of what the inputs do, I'll update the Wiki accordingly.
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Post by tIB on Jan 5, 2022 21:48:35 GMT
Here's what Robert told me about the inputs some time back - I'm sure he won't mind me passing on:
"The L and H inputs are not designed for mixing, but more as two different input levels for the filter (where other filters eg. in Eurorack have a dedicated input level knob)."
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Post by pol on Jan 9, 2022 21:14:12 GMT
Here's what Robert told me about the inputs some time back - I'm sure he won't mind me passing on: "The L and H inputs are not designed for mixing, but more as two different input levels for the filter (where other filters eg. in Eurorack have a dedicated input level knob)." Having tested on a module myself (can't do the MS20 filter, nor version 2 of the wasp filter as I don't have) I can vouch for this, and have updated the relevant wiki pages, admin  |
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Post by pol on Jan 9, 2022 21:15:51 GMT
Ooohh i get what you're saying - so 'high' and 'low' refers to the signal level they accept rather than the level they produce. Gotcha! Probably the wiki pages could be clearer on this (although i haven't seen anyone else question it before so maybe people are just figuring it out themselves!)
I also plugged my signals by default in the High input, will probably use the Low input more now. I will be doing the same, always used the H input first as thought it was best, have done some mixing via the inputs hence what was on the Wiki.... |
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Post by admin on Jan 9, 2022 21:17:42 GMT
I can vouch for this, and have updated the relevant wiki pages, admin Thank you pol! |
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