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Post by williamv on Feb 10, 2022 17:26:31 GMT
hello my midi clock divider has stopped working. do you think robert would have a look at it for me ?
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Post by admin on Feb 10, 2022 19:46:38 GMT
hello my midi clock divider has stopped working. do you think robert would have a look at it for me ? Could you please describe the problem? |
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Post by robertlanger on Feb 10, 2022 20:58:45 GMT
definitely! But, as carsten said, please give a description what the exact issue is. For a test, feed a squarewave from an oscillator to the clock input and check if the LEDs are flickering.
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Post by williamv on Feb 11, 2022 2:57:34 GMT
hello robert and carsten. yes very sorry i have been trying to understand my problem. i am using a hard disk recorder and use its midi out to sync so i can multitrack the ae system. i am doing this by receiving the signal in the master module and then patching it out from the +5volt bclk to the midi clock divider then into the seq16 so i can overdub my sequences.at first i thought the midiclk divider was faulty. but to test it i sent a clock from an lfo to the midi clk divider clk in just to see and it worked. midi channels are ok because i tried the hard drive recorder as midi master running a beat step pro triggering the ae and that works fine also i thought maybe the arturia breakout cable might be the problem so i switched it for the ae cable and still no joy. i might add that when you remove the
ae patch cable from the+5volt bclk from the master module and touch the top of the patch socket the sequencer moves forward and then stops. this is strange because it used to work fine . i just think i am doing something wrong but i cant see it. thankyou so much for your patience with my problems. i am still in love with this fantastic machine
all the best
william v
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Post by lukylutte on Feb 11, 2022 6:08:40 GMT
Hey, the clock is from the b.clock (buss clock) not from +5v. Can tak a picture or something? I can't understand how it used to work with that... Or am I missing something?
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Post by lukylutte on Feb 11, 2022 6:10:00 GMT
On the master the left is only +5v and the right output is the one with the buss clock.
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Post by pt3r on Feb 11, 2022 9:55:41 GMT
indeed what is described here sounds like you plugged the 5v into the clokc input of the sequencer which will interpret it as 1 pulse and move forward 1 step and that's it.
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Post by robertlanger on Feb 11, 2022 10:36:15 GMT
On the master the left is only +5v and the right output is the one with the buss clock. Correct, please try this socket. Alternatively, the bus clock can be accessed directly on the midiclock divider module; left row of sockets, second from bottom (BUS CLK). Hope this helps! |
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Post by williamv on Feb 11, 2022 10:39:30 GMT
no i didnt plug the clock into the sequencer. all i did was put an lfo pulse through the midi clock divider just to see if the clock divider was working and it did my issue is that when the midi signal comes out of the master module using usin the +5volt socket and then into the divider and then into the sequencer it does not advance this is my problem. thankyou everyone for your help
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Post by admin on Feb 11, 2022 10:48:31 GMT
no i didnt plug the clock into the sequencer. all i did was put an lfo pulse through the midi clock divider just to see if the clock divider was working and it did my issue is that when the midi signal comes out of the master module using usin the +5volt socket and then into the divider and then into the sequencer it does not advance this is my problem. thankyou everyone for your help Can you please try this: LFO square wave out into CLK on Beatdivider, A out from Beatdivider into CLK on SEQ16 (or SEQ8) ... if you're not using MIDI, then that's all you need to do. OR with MIDI clock: Patch BUS CLK on the Beatdivider into CLK on the Beatdivider, then A out from Beatdivider into CLK on SEQ16 ... at no time do you need to patch anything from the Master module! |
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Post by williamv on Feb 11, 2022 10:58:44 GMT
hello tried the bus clk on the divider i connected it to clk on the divider and it did not work. also i tried the +5volt on the left and that didnt work either
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Post by williamv on Feb 11, 2022 11:02:07 GMT
you say clk dont you mean cue on the seq16
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Post by williamv on Feb 11, 2022 11:07:52 GMT
sorry i dont understand when you say you dont need to patch anything from the master module yet it has midi in coming from my hard drive recorder. and in the past i would come out of that from the plus 5 volt into divider and it worked but not now
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Post by dizzeesatchel on Feb 11, 2022 11:35:34 GMT
The MIDI signals received by the master module are sent along 'under the surface' to the BUS CLK and BUS CTRL pins on every module, so you can patch out from any of those points in your rack, you don't have to use the one on the master module.
+5v is definitely not the correct socket to use, that just sends a constant 5 volts, it wouldn't be transmitting any clocks or midi data.
Is the midi-in on your master module set to OMNI? I wonder if your recorder is sending midi on a channel which the AE isn't set to pick up.
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Post by admin on Feb 11, 2022 11:40:03 GMT
sorry i dont understand when you say you dont need to patch anything from the master module yet it has midi in coming from my hard drive recorder. and in the past i would come out of that from the plus 5 volt into divider and it worked but not now So first off, the Master module has two columns of pins, so it's easy to get confused. On the bottom there is a +5V output on the left and the Bus Clk output on the right! So it's important to use the right hand output for the clock, and not the left! See image below:  Then it's important to understand that the Midi signals are being transported from the Master module via the flat cable in the back of all the modules to all modules! So for instance on many modules you see an output like BUS CLK, BUS CV, BUS CTRL. Those outputs are the exact same as from the Master module, but you can get them directly from the module where you might need it most. So the BEATDIVIDER has a BUS CLK output and you would patch it into its own CLK input like so:  Then you would take the output of the Beat Divider and connect it to the CLK input on the SEQ16 like so:  |
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Post by williamv on Feb 11, 2022 12:22:22 GMT
thankyou carsten for taking the time for such an in depth explanation. sorry to ask but i am confused about the +5volt from master. it would normally go to divider clk but it cant now because the short lead is going from divider clk to divider clk. i know iam very annoying asking lots of questions ,but i do appreciate your help and time
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Post by lukylutte on Feb 11, 2022 12:40:08 GMT
5v from master is constant so it can't work for what you want. No need to be confused, just don't use it 😜.However, it worked with lfo but not with the buss clock? If so, are you sure the master is receiving the midi clock? The clock is passing through only after receiving a start midi message.
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Post by williamv on Feb 11, 2022 16:03:34 GMT
yes because i checked this by using a beatstep prowhich received midi from my hard disk recorder, the beat step pro then sent midi to the ae and works pefectly
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Post by pt3r on Feb 11, 2022 16:29:09 GMT
what midi channel is your mastermodule set to? and what midi channel is your recorder set to? your beatstep pro probably can respond to every midi channel whereas the master module will only respond to one specific midi channel.
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Post by williamv on Feb 12, 2022 0:33:37 GMT
beat step pro is seq 1 =ch1 seq 2=ch2 drums ch= 10. when using the beat step pro with ae the ae recognises ch 1. the recorder is trk 1 =midi ch1 basicallly trk no =midi channel on the recorder. look this is a problem with the ae not something else. i recorded 10 songs using the +5volt out for midi and i wrote down the patches i am not going mad there is a problem. sorry everyone this is getting frustrating
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Post by maydonpoliris on Feb 12, 2022 4:03:19 GMT
If I understand correctly a test was done using the beatstep pro sending midi and Ae worked perfectly, was this including the beat divider?
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Post by williamv on Feb 12, 2022 4:31:08 GMT
no not including the beat divider
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Post by williamv on Feb 12, 2022 4:33:07 GMT
also i am starting to think back . robert replaced my master module and i am wondering if the one i have now is a little different to my original
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Post by maydonpoliris on Feb 12, 2022 4:51:41 GMT
Thanks, was just going through your answers and everyone's suggestions seeing if I could think of anything else / add anything etc.
Ah that could be something
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Post by maydonpoliris on Feb 12, 2022 5:00:11 GMT
how long ago was it replaced and was this set up working at all after.
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