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Post by audiojack on Nov 1, 2022 20:53:44 GMT
I have 20X7 rows to power.
How much power do I need to power the full rack?
The rows need to interconnect. I can get the cable with the hinge kit, but I don't need the hinges. Can I get just the interconnect cables?
all the best -
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Post by pt3r on Nov 1, 2022 20:56:08 GMT
Nobody can answer that question for you. You best make a simulation of your rack in the Grid and see there what the power consumption of your setup will be.
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Post by admin on Nov 1, 2022 21:03:38 GMT
I have 20X7 rows to power. How much power do I need to power the full rack? The rows need to interconnect. I can get the cable with the hinge kit, but I don't need the hinges. Can I get just the interconnect cables? all the best -
1. Most likely you will run into trouble trying to run more than 4x20 from one Master module. But mapping your system in the Grid will tell you the estimated power consumption. 2. Please contact tw directly with your request for just the cable: www.tangiblewaves.com/contact.html3. You could also make those cables yourself quite easily, just get a flat 10 pin ribbon cable and two 10 pin connectors (see www.tangiblewaves.com/diy-info.html) |
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Post by rockysmalls on Nov 2, 2022 12:41:52 GMT
I have 20X7 rows to power. How much power do I need to power the full rack? The rows need to interconnect. I can get the cable with the hinge kit, but I don't need the hinges. Can I get just the interconnect cables? all the best -
1. Most likely you will run into trouble trying to run more than 4x20 from one Master module. But mapping your system in the Grid will tell you the estimated power consumption. 2. Please contact tw directly with your request for just the cable: www.tangiblewaves.com/contact.html3. You could also make those cables yourself quite easily, just get a flat 10 pin ribbon cable and two 10 pin connectors (see www.tangiblewaves.com/diy-info.html)it is indeed very easy as the 10pin sockets just push into the cable to make the contacts so no soldering.. i got a load of ribbon and sockets last year.. if yr in the UK i can easily make & post you a connection cable.. just pm me and decide how many centimetres long you want it.. ie: same as usually comes with hinge kit or maybe longer if the two cases can’t sit close together on yr workdesk? no charge btw  |
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Post by audiojack on Nov 2, 2022 18:34:13 GMT
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Post by audiojack on Nov 4, 2022 18:02:34 GMT
So, I have a 4X20, a 2X20 and a 1X20 making 7X20 The 4X20 is full and run from the old Master IO Module.
Two questions.
1) Will the newer Slim Power Module power the 1X20 and the 2X20 together and full of stuff? 2) The interconnect cable carries power. How do I cable the 4X20 to the 1X20 if they both have a power source? Do I need a special interconnect cable that does not carry power?
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Post by dizzeesatchel on Nov 4, 2022 18:50:33 GMT
Pretty sure POWER provides the same amount of mA as MASTER, (the modulargrid suggests so anyway), it’s just smaller by virtue of having fewer ins and outs / no midi input
If both ‘halves’ of your setup were independently powered - one with power, one with master - i don’t think you’d need to interconnect, you could just patch between modules as normal? Someone correct me if i’m wrong, but i don’t think grounding would be a problem as long as you’re powering both from wall sockets (because they’d share a common ground with your home power supply?)
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Post by maydonpoliris on Nov 4, 2022 19:46:21 GMT
not sure about sharing the home ground.
I do know that if you use 1 power cable connected to a splitter cable, one going into the Power module and one into the Master you can patch between the 2 systems without connecting them. I do this method without problems.
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Post by dizzeesatchel on Nov 4, 2022 22:43:06 GMT
Oh yeah, a splitter is probably what i’m thinking of!
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Post by audiojack on Nov 5, 2022 20:01:35 GMT
Doesn't the interconnect cable also carry midi and any other bus signals input patched into the Master IO?
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Post by maydonpoliris on Nov 6, 2022 6:12:29 GMT
yes correct, it does, if you wanted to incorporate the bus connection on second system that has the power module only, you would need to use a patch wire out of the bus clk/gate/cv from the master (or other module with bus outs I guess) on the first system to the module on the second system.
but importantly you would need to make sure they are both powered by the same splitter and power cable to create the common ground.
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Post by audiojack on Nov 6, 2022 11:47:55 GMT
if you wanted to incorporate the bus connection on second system that has the power module only, you would need to use a patch wire out of the bus clk/gate/cv from the master (or other module with bus outs I guess) on the first system to the module on the second system.
Ok, so NO interconnect cable then?
If that is the case, is it not possible to build an interconnect cable that carries the BUS signals but not the power?
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Post by pt3r on Nov 6, 2022 13:31:57 GMT
if you wanted to incorporate the bus connection on second system that has the power module only, you would need to use a patch wire out of the bus clk/gate/cv from the master (or other module with bus outs I guess) on the first system to the module on the second system.
Ok, so NO interconnect cable then?
If that is the case, is it not possible to build an interconnect cable that carries the BUS signals but not the power?
Of course, you can also modify an existing interconnect cable by cutting the power lines and removing those from the ribbon. |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Nov 8, 2022 12:17:18 GMT
Pretty sure POWER provides the same amount of mA as MASTER, (the modulargrid suggests so anyway), it’s just smaller by virtue of having fewer ins and outs / no midi input If both ‘halves’ of your setup were independently powered - one with power, one with master - i don’t think you’d need to interconnect, you could just patch between modules as normal? Someone correct me if i’m wrong, but i don’t think grounding would be a problem as long as you’re powering both from wall sockets (because they’d share a common ground with your home power supply?) In the 'charger' unit that plugs in the wall sockets, the 230V get's transformed to 9V. This also creates a seperate ground (as Transformers basically make a new electrical circuit). So as you & others notes further down, you would indeed need to either use a splitter (so that splits after the charger) of connect ground over cables. Just wanted to clarify why it doesn't work over the ground of your wall sockets. |
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Post by maydonpoliris on Nov 9, 2022 9:20:42 GMT
if you wanted to incorporate the bus connection on second system that has the power module only, you would need to use a patch wire out of the bus clk/gate/cv from the master (or other module with bus outs I guess) on the first system to the module on the second system.
Ok, so NO interconnect cable then?
If that is the case, is it not possible to build an interconnect cable that carries the BUS signals but not the power?
had never thought of that. cool. |
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