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Post by admin on Mar 30, 2019 7:25:12 GMT
This is a dual sample and hold module which "freezes" an input signal on the first trigger and releases it on the next trigger. Typically used together with a noise module for random CV sequences or random melody lines. www.tangiblewaves.com/store/p18/SAMPLE%26HOLD.html
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Post by admin on Mar 30, 2019 7:27:44 GMT
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Post by spacedog on Mar 30, 2019 16:15:26 GMT
Excellent video, admin. We're going to have to group together to buy you a nice pointer
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Post by thetechnobear on Mar 30, 2019 21:13:49 GMT
nice video, i like the examples sample and hold module which "freezes" an input signal on the first trigger and releases it on the next trigger. I think its simpler to say: the S&H samples (=reads) the input CV whenever it is 'triggered' by a rising edge on its trig input (0->5v), and outputs this voltage until it samples its input again, due to another trigger. at 1:25 in your video you say, it samples on the first trig, and only outputs on the next trig - this is incorrect - it outputs the sampled voltgae immediately after sampling it. the easy way to 'test this', use a constant voltage from 2att (set to 5v) into cv in, and a gate trig from a midi keyboard, cv out into a filter, you can see that the filter position will reflect changes on 2att, on soon as you press a key. of course, at faster rates, this is all pretty unimportant - its only noticeable when you use it at slow rates. anyway for those wanting to take these S&H ideas further, mylarmelodies has a great video...
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Post by admin on Mar 30, 2019 23:41:52 GMT
at 1:25 in your video you say, it samples on the first trig, and only outputs on the next trig - this is incorrect - it outputs the sampled voltgae immediately after sampling it. Wow, thanks for correcting this! I completely misunderstood this, so if fed a gate instead of a trigger it would output the sampled voltage until the next gate. I will add a correction to the video description.
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Post by thetechnobear on Mar 31, 2019 0:16:31 GMT
ok, its not really about the gate, its just that a keyboard gate is a really good way to 'test' when things are triggering. (since you can control when it rises, and when it falls )
badly drawn diagram... imagine a signal that goes 0 to 5v, it can be non-evenly space, like if you played a keyboard. the S&H is only interested in the rising edge of that signal, where it goes from 0 to 5v (where ive marked with a caret (^)) when it sees this it 'samples' the voltage, and just holds it (and outputs it), then the next time it sees a rising edge it does the same, (in reality, it doesn't even need a square wave, it will use some kind of comparator, so it will say when ever the signal goes above a certain level (e.g. 2.5v) it will trigger a sample) in short form these are referred to as 'triggers' (as opposed to gates) - its when a module only cares about the transition from low to high (or rarely you can have falling edge triggers when it goes high to low)... and the key bit is, they module doesn't care about the falling edge, its only looking at the rising edge. I think your description was pretty close, its just the sampled voltage is immediately output, it doesn't 'wait' for another trig to output that 'new' voltage. (your description is close to what a shift register does)
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Post by admin on Mar 31, 2019 0:17:38 GMT
We're going to have to group together to buy you a nice pointer Thanks, but what's wrong with my pointer? Should I use a different colour? Please choose from my available palette below
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Post by admin on Mar 31, 2019 0:20:35 GMT
(your description is close to what a shift register does) Aha! I think I got those mixed up. I love shift registers and would love to have one in the AE system.
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Post by thetechnobear on Mar 31, 2019 0:38:30 GMT
yeah, shift registers are cool, starts leading you into Turing machine territory
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Post by Lugia on Apr 1, 2019 13:03:38 GMT
I suggested a shift register to Robert quite some time ago, and he mentioned that it didn't seem to be all that difficult to implement. Hopefully sometime around when the quantizer module comes out (or not long after) he might hop back on that one, as they make a nice pairing with such things.
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