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Post by solipsistnation on Feb 6, 2023 1:25:57 GMT
I made a demo of the micro drum modules. They sound pretty great.
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Post by namke on Feb 6, 2023 6:37:58 GMT
That’s fantastic, thank you so much for doing that…! I should get back on to making more — your snare sounds great btw  |
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Post by solipsistnation on Feb 6, 2023 16:58:28 GMT
Thanks! Yes, please make me some more tiny drum voices! 8)
Snares are complicated-- you get the shell tone and the snap and potentially different envelopes and filtering on each. I think you said something about probably not being able to do it as a micro module, but a really nice tunable snare with adjustable snap and decay in 1U would be pretty awesome.
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Post by dizzeesatchel on Feb 6, 2023 18:48:46 GMT
Wow, sounds great! That's a really nice little rhythm setup.
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Post by turbotodd2k on Jun 4, 2023 8:15:16 GMT
Has anyone had problems with the Hi Hat module having a really low volume? I just received mine and with everything turned up I can just barely hear it.
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Post by namke on Jun 4, 2023 8:37:37 GMT
Has anyone had problems with the Hi Hat module having a really low volume? I just received mine and with everything turned up I can just barely hear it. Sorry about that; It’s definitely quieter than the others, and I’m looking into whether I can change it, however I think that it might be the nature of the sound, since there’s not much energy in the higher frequencies. Personally I don’t have too much of a problem balancing the volume against the other drums (although the bd and cb are significantly louder) Can I ask what you’re triggering it with as there will be some dependency on the size of the trigger pulse. |
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Post by Kyaa on Jun 4, 2023 17:48:27 GMT
Wowee, didn't see this demo before. That cowbell sounds 🤌
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Post by turbotodd2k on Jun 4, 2023 18:50:55 GMT
So turns out part of the problem I was having is the Ubase I got to run the drum modules seems to have an issue. After adjusting my expectations on the volume level I'm set. Just caught me off guard how much more quiet than the drumkit Hi Hat it was.
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Post by leethargo on Jun 6, 2023 7:06:54 GMT
Sounds great.
Any reason why the parameters that are knob-controllable are not also CV-controllable?
Same question applies to the the Tangible Waves KICK module, or a host of other modules, in general.
I often see left-over space on the input side of modules, then used as multiples, which could be used to introduce more CV-control.
(I'm new to this all, so there are probably valid technical limitations for this, but I don't know/understand them.)
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Post by pt3r on Jun 6, 2023 7:37:47 GMT
on these micro module is not a lot of extra space to add more hardware, if you take off the faceplate of a uModule you will see that there is more happening behind the faceplate than meets the eye.
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Jun 6, 2023 9:58:37 GMT
Indeed, space is an issue. But also: it is not always technically possible (and certainly not 'easy') to turn a knob into CV. From an electronics standpoint: a knob is a variable resistance, CV is varying voltage. For some circuits its easy, very easy to find a way to change a 'variable resistance' with a 'variable voltage' to get the same effects. In some circuits its hard, borderline impossible, to swap the two. If you're into electronics and like a long forum read, i can recommend this thread: modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=188546 |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Jun 6, 2023 10:02:13 GMT
Indeed, space is an issue. But also: it is not always technically possible (and certainly not 'easy') to turn a knob into CV. From an electronics standpoint: a knob is a variable resistance, CV is varying voltage. For some circuits its easy, very easy to find a way to change a 'variable resistance' with a 'variable voltage' to get the same effects. In some circuits its hard, borderline impossible, to swap the two. If you're into electronics and like a long forum read, i can recommend this thread: modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=188546Oh and by the way, the old wisdom of 'just slap a vactrol in' is no longer valid, as these all have been discontinued (because they basically destroy the environment with Cadmium iirc). You can still 'roll' your own vactrols, using an LDR, a LED, and glue/resin/tape, but its very messy. So it's still possible for DIY fun, but its really not that easy to implement in a larger run of modules and very time intensive. |
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Post by leethargo on Jun 6, 2023 10:06:02 GMT
Thanks for the explanation. The space argument is convincing for micro modules, and the other argument about static/dynamic voltages applies also to other modules.
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Post by Kyaa on Jun 6, 2023 14:56:17 GMT
Oh and by the way, the old wisdom of 'just slap a vactrol in' is no longer valid, as these all have been discontinued (because they basically destroy the environment with Cadmium iirc). You can still 'roll' your own vactrols, using an LDR, a LED, and glue/resin/tape, but its very messy. So it's still possible for DIY fun, but its really not that easy to implement in a larger run of modules and very time intensive. You can technically find those parts pre-rolled in an optocoupler/optoisolator, but using them in a similar way to a vactrol probably isn't intended. There was an old chip I was messing with and running into the same issue, but maybe I'll try it out and see what the response it. |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Jun 6, 2023 15:15:46 GMT
Oh and by the way, the old wisdom of 'just slap a vactrol in' is no longer valid, as these all have been discontinued (because they basically destroy the environment with Cadmium iirc). You can still 'roll' your own vactrols, using an LDR, a LED, and glue/resin/tape, but its very messy. So it's still possible for DIY fun, but its really not that easy to implement in a larger run of modules and very time intensive. You can technically find those parts pre-rolled in an optocoupler/optoisolator, but using them in a similar way to a vactrol probably isn't intended. There was an old chip I was messing with and running into the same issue, but maybe I'll try it out and see what the response it. AFAIK it's not the same in the optocoupler chips. It should be possible to use optocouplers as voltage controlled resistors, but there is only a narrow band of operation in which they behave nice & linear IIRC. I know that Fred's Lab small Zekit synth (with open source schematics), uses these to VC it's filter. |
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Post by pt3r on Jun 22, 2023 18:10:03 GMT
ERMAGERD, my uModules arrived today, thank Satan for the existence of the Lectronz shop for us mainlanders. First quick tryout patch, wow, what a sound, excellent investment a great addition to my rack. Great work Jon! I don't think I'll patch a kick drum from scratch any time soon.
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Jun 22, 2023 20:39:55 GMT
ERMAGERD, my uModules arrived today, thank Satan for the existence of the Lectronz shop for us mainlanders. First quick tryout patch, wow, what a sound, excellent investment a great addition to my rack. Great work Jon! I don't think I'll patch a kick drum from scratch any time soon. My favorite patch strategy last two weeks has been to use MS20 kick together with the Wonkystuff kick. MS20 does the main groove/impact kick, wonkystuff kick provides these satisfying rhythmic pulsing/grooving/rolling sounds in between the kicks. A techno classic  And I'm still in love with these hihatts.... I swear they remind me of Aphex Twin's 'Selected Ambient' tracks! |
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Post by pt3r on Jun 22, 2023 20:50:26 GMT
yes I really love those hi-hats nice and crisp, same goes for the rimshot.
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Post by solipsistnation on Jun 23, 2023 4:24:33 GMT
I know, right? They're super nice little drum voices!
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Post by namke on Jun 23, 2023 13:14:49 GMT
ERMAGERD, my uModules arrived today, thank Satan for the existence of the Lectronz shop for us mainlanders. First quick tryout patch, wow, what a sound, excellent investment a great addition to my rack. Great work Jon! I don't think I'll patch a kick drum from scratch any time soon. Glad that they arrived! Hopefully no extra charges from the postal service? I think that this means I should roll out more items to the Lectronz shop — thank you for being the second customer there |
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Post by pt3r on Jun 23, 2023 13:50:56 GMT
ERMAGERD, my uModules arrived today, thank Satan for the existence of the Lectronz shop for us mainlanders. First quick tryout patch, wow, what a sound, excellent investment a great addition to my rack. Great work Jon! I don't think I'll patch a kick drum from scratch any time soon. Glad that they arrived! Hopefully no extra charges from the postal service? I think that this means I should roll out more items to the Lectronz shop — thank you for being the second customer there No extra surprise charges from postal services, or customs. Lectronz is the the best way to go for European customers. |
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Post by pt3r on Jul 5, 2023 18:32:09 GMT
For the owners of keurslagerkurt 's quad boost, try sending your hh55 module through boost 1 or 2 for extra crispiness and the bd55 through boost3 for extra thump. Great combo. |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Jul 5, 2023 22:12:33 GMT
For the owners of keurslagerkurt 's quad boost, try sending your hh55 module through boost 1 or 2 for extra crispiness and the bd55 through boost3 for extra thump. Great combo. I haven't even tried this myself! 😄 Thanks for the tip, and really cool to hear that the different transistors work better with different drum sounds. It's not just a gimmick after all! |
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