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Post by rockysmalls on Aug 2, 2023 13:04:04 GMT
I’m pondering the speed of LFOs , .. recently I built a THC Recursive Machine but swapped out the capacitors on the LFO’s for higher values to get a 16 second cycle instead of the 4 or 5secs with the normal specs .. i realized i ( and others surely ) really could do with some slllooooooowwwww LFO action in AE. I would love it if i could swap or bridge a capacitor in the MODULATORS module or maybe get a uLFO and mod them .. yes i know it will be fiddly but does anyone ( robertlanger ) have an idea which components might work for this? i could do with getting nearer to 40 or 50 seconds a cycle. Workarounds would also be welcome from you clever ae commandos. |
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Post by robertlanger on Aug 2, 2023 13:20:53 GMT
I’m pondering the speed of LFOs , .. recently I built a THC Recursive Machine but swapped out the capacitors on the LFO’s for higher values to get a 16 second cycle instead of the 4 or 5secs with the normal specs .. i realized i ( and others surely ) really could do with some slllooooooowwwww LFO action in AE. I would love it if i could swap or bridge a capacitor in the MODULATORS module or maybe get a uLFO and mod them .. yes i know it will be fiddly but does anyone ( robertlanger ) have an idea which components might work for this? i could do with getting nearer to 40 or 50 seconds a cycle. Workarounds would also be welcome from you clever ae commandos. Maybe a small slide switch or a jumper socket on the board could be used for this. Not a big deal; I will integrate it for the next batch. The biggest problem is not to forget it ;-) |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Aug 2, 2023 14:35:53 GMT
I’m pondering the speed of LFOs , .. recently I built a THC Recursive Machine but swapped out the capacitors on the LFO’s for higher values to get a 16 second cycle instead of the 4 or 5secs with the normal specs .. i realized i ( and others surely ) really could do with some slllooooooowwwww LFO action in AE. I would love it if i could swap or bridge a capacitor in the MODULATORS module or maybe get a uLFO and mod them .. yes i know it will be fiddly but does anyone ( robertlanger ) have an idea which components might work for this? i could do with getting nearer to 40 or 50 seconds a cycle. Workarounds would also be welcome from you clever ae commandos. Maybe a small slide switch or a jumper socket on the board could be used for this. Not a big deal; I will integrate it for the next batch. The biggest problem is not to forget it ;-) Is the LFO digital inside? I myself had trouble (among other things) for the slow sloth to find large enough caps that still fit the boards/height for a slow oscillation. |
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Post by pt3r on Aug 2, 2023 14:37:37 GMT
A looping envelope in slow mode? Not sure how long you can set the attack an decay times but that should give pretty slow saw wave lfos.
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Aug 2, 2023 14:38:58 GMT
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Aug 2, 2023 14:39:47 GMT
Sorry to keep on posting, but come to think of it, the AEuroPi also has a 'harmonic lfo' script which gives a ton of LFO's that can go very slow as well.
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Post by rockysmalls on Aug 2, 2023 17:05:41 GMT
ooh hello, i didn’t notice that one ... vera interesting !! but, I was hoping for something i could adapt in the ‘multi purpose’ ie: Modulators module OR the uLFO .. I’m trying to work with the smallest systems right now .. small & slllooooowwwwww  |
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Post by rockysmalls on Aug 2, 2023 17:07:57 GMT
Sorry to keep on posting, but come to think of it, the AEuroPi also has a 'harmonic lfo' script which gives a ton of LFO's that can go very slow as well. yes, i didn’t get one yet ... definitely very appealing and can only get more so as it develops , so will have to get one eventually... but meantime i’m definitely trying to get a slow LFO ( or 2 ) without using much module real estate  |
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Post by rockysmalls on Aug 2, 2023 17:12:09 GMT
I’m pondering the speed of LFOs , .. recently I built a THC Recursive Machine but swapped out the capacitors on the LFO’s for higher values to get a 16 second cycle instead of the 4 or 5secs with the normal specs .. i realized i ( and others surely ) really could do with some slllooooooowwwww LFO action in AE. I would love it if i could swap or bridge a capacitor in the MODULATORS module or maybe get a uLFO and mod them .. yes i know it will be fiddly but does anyone ( robertlanger ) have an idea which components might work for this? i could do with getting nearer to 40 or 50 seconds a cycle. Workarounds would also be welcome from you clever ae commandos. Maybe a small slide switch or a jumper socket on the board could be used for this. Not a big deal; I will integrate it for the next batch. The biggest problem is not to forget it ;-) this would be AMAZING!!! though do you mean the uLFO module or the Modulators module? would be great on the uLFO ( though maybe more tricky ) as i don’t have it yet ,,, also great on the Modulators but i would have to buy another ... no problem really as I wouldn’t really imagine a system without the 5 in 1 functions of the mighty 1u MODULATORS... more like this please  |
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Post by rockysmalls on Aug 2, 2023 17:14:54 GMT
A looping envelope in slow mode? Not sure how long you can set the attack an decay times but that should give pretty slow saw wave lfos. it’s an idea, i haven’t checked the rate of looping envelopes ... there is also Kyaa’s recordable cv module .. in chain mode the 2 cycles ( i think ) add up to 60 secs (??) though he did say there would be a lo res longer mode eventually ... not sure how that’s going ? Kyaa |
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Post by funbun on Aug 3, 2023 11:14:27 GMT
Yeah, a super slow ENV on the loop would be a great work around. Envelops are just another kind of CV.
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Post by pol on Aug 5, 2023 11:52:21 GMT
I've done very slow changes on filter cut off with the Joystick module, just moving it a tiny bit on each repeat of the bassline I think it was. For those of you without a Sloth (I use that module most of the time when wanting slow CV now  ).
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Post by Kyaa on Aug 7, 2023 16:56:22 GMT
A looping envelope in slow mode? Not sure how long you can set the attack an decay times but that should give pretty slow saw wave lfos. it’s an idea, i haven’t checked the rate of looping envelopes ... there is also Kyaa’s recordable cv module .. in chain mode the 2 cycles ( i think ) add up to 60 secs (??) though he did say there would be a lo res longer mode eventually ... not sure how that’s going ? Kyaa All my brain-dollars are currently being spent getting quickswap into production. 😬 Some people have mentioned interest in the de-res feature, but there wasn't enough demand for me to prioritize it compared to other stuff. |
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Post by keurslagerkurt on Aug 7, 2023 19:42:06 GMT
Been droning away with the 2ENV on slow looping duty today, it does go slooow, and slower than Sloth. Not 'ultraslow' multiple-minutes territory, but still pretty damn slow. Good tip, thanks maestro pt3r !! In order to get some extra movement & chaos, I also patched the first envelope into the second one's "attack CV" in, and patched the second one back into the first one's "decay CV" in. (ofc you should not put attack & decay knobs at max in this case, or the CV will do nothing) |
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Post by rockysmalls on Aug 8, 2023 18:12:16 GMT
Been droning away with the 2ENV on slow looping duty today, it does go slooow, and slower than Sloth. Not 'ultraslow' multiple-minutes territory, but still pretty damn slow. Good tip, thanks maestro pt3r !! In order to get some extra movement & chaos, I also patched the first envelope into the second one's "attack CV" in, and patched the second one back into the first one's "decay CV" in. (ofc you should not put attack & decay knobs at max in this case, or the CV will do nothing) hmm yeah,, just noticed this in the 2env wiki : “Both attack and decay time can be CV controlled; the CV "multiplies" the time by 1...approx. 8 times.” i’m presuming that ‘1’ is a typo ... so maybe a +5v input to att & dec cv could change the 16+24 secs of the slow att/dec from 40 secs to 5mins 20secs!!  could it? only one way to find out but.... do i actually have that newer 2env?? |
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Post by pol on Aug 9, 2023 10:26:01 GMT
Been droning away with the 2ENV on slow looping duty today, it does go slooow, and slower than Sloth. Not 'ultraslow' multiple-minutes territory, but still pretty damn slow. Good tip, thanks maestro pt3r !! In order to get some extra movement & chaos, I also patched the first envelope into the second one's "attack CV" in, and patched the second one back into the first one's "decay CV" in. (ofc you should not put attack & decay knobs at max in this case, or the CV will do nothing) hmm yeah,, just noticed this in the 2env wiki : “Both attack and decay time can be CV controlled; the CV "multiplies" the time by 1...approx. 8 times.” i’m presuming that ‘1’ is a typo ... so maybe a +5v input to att & dec cv could change the 16+24 secs of the slow att/dec from 40 secs to 5mins 20secs!! could it? only one way to find out but.... do i actually have that newer 2env?? The 1 isn't a Typo, just means there is no change upwards rather then putting a CV in will change it regardless.... |
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Post by 101 on Aug 9, 2023 23:55:15 GMT
In Ornament and Crime (sequins I think) you can set square frequency pulses to 'Glacial', which takes 18 hours to pulse.
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