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Post by NightMachines on Aug 13, 2018 19:44:40 GMT
The Olegtron 4060 and 4060 mkII are small, experimental signal generators. They feature a circuit around a CD4060 Logic IC, which is used to generate a bunch of square waves of different frequencies (and sawtooth waves in the mkII as well). The box has a breadboard-style patch field on top and comes with a bag of electronic components, like resistors, capacitors, light sensors and LEDs, which are used to connect the different inputs and outputs. Because of the low voltages, experimenting with the 4060 is safe and if your are an electronics beginner, there are many happy accidents waiting to be discovered. The built-in 3.5mm minijack sockets make connecting the 4060 to other equipment easy.   I made a demo video of the original 4060, which is similar to the new mkII: Of course you can make music with the 4060! Here's a multi-tracked jam session, using the original 4060 and some iPad audio effects: In this video I use the original Olegtron 4060 to sequence my Tinysizer modular synth:As usual, the Arturia MicroBrute benefits from additional modulation sources, so here I have the Olegtron 4060 modulate the MicroBrute's filter cutoff frequency: The Olegtron 4060 mkII is still in stock at Error Instruments for 119 € incl. tax. Other retailers are listed on the Olegtron website as well. |
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Post by ecleinjr on Aug 14, 2018 3:08:34 GMT
Oh man, these things look interesting.
Might have to invest in one soon.
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Post by thetechnobear on Aug 14, 2018 11:54:46 GMT
wow, Ive never seen or heard of this, and looks really interesting to play with, very tempted to get one  |
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Post by NightMachines on Aug 15, 2018 6:16:16 GMT
Yes, it's a weird little box and while I have no clue what I'm doing with it, it's still fun and useful. The new mkII version looks like it has really nice improvements too. I always wanted to build some "preset" cards for it, you know, using a strip of perfboard and pins to which certain components are permanently soldered to and which one can replace like game cartridges.
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Post by thetechnobear on Aug 15, 2018 21:09:21 GMT
Yesterday when I looked at these, they reminded me of the OMSynth, so I decided to create a post in the DIY section about the OMSynth. today, I had a chance to watch you full video, and it realised, the reason it reminded me of the OMSynth is because the kit circuits you build are using the CD4040 (little brother of the CD4060), and the CD40106, which is a Schmitt trigger, that you use to build a clock. basically the OSC in the Olegtron is the CD40106, and the counter (aka divider) is the CD4060. I love the fact that Olegtron have made a nice little front end for it... its looks like it makes it so quick and easy to use. You might also find it interesting to go watch the first two of the OMSynth videos (ive just added links on my post), as you can see the basics of how Olegtron 4060 works... and I think Peter shows a few tricks you can do , e.g. he explains the diode trick on the divider -iirc
back to using Olegtron 4060 … so did you power it with 5v for the Minisizer? if I read the instructions correctly (im reading mk2), its either 0-9v unipolar, or bipolar 4.5v. but it says the 4060 will work with 3v-15v, so if you use 5v, it should work fine with AE modular directly to patch points (in unipolar 5v mode) if you still have the 4060 did you try yet with AEM? also do you still have the Bitranger, perhaps that might also be fun with AEM? |
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Post by NightMachines on Aug 17, 2018 16:20:46 GMT
so did you power it with 5v for the Minisizer? if I read the instructions correctly (im reading mk2), its either 0-9v unipolar, or bipolar 4.5v. but it says the 4060 will work with 3v-15v, so if you use 5v, it should work fine with AE modular directly to patch points (in unipolar 5v mode) if you still have the 4060 did you try yet with AEM? also do you still have the Bitranger, perhaps that might also be fun with AEM? I connected the Olegtron to the Tinysizer directly. As far as I know, the Tinysizer can work with Eurorack signals, so the 4060’s 9V shouldn’t be a problem. Haven’t tried that or the BitRanger with the AEM yet, but of course that’s on my to do list |
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Post by gaeel on Sept 17, 2018 18:45:45 GMT
I've ordered a 4060, and I'm hoping that a simple voltage divider with a couple resistors will be enough to tame it into the AEM's 0-5V range
Going to connect it to an oscilloscope first though, play around, make sure I don't fry a resistor (any advice on how to pick the right size resistor is welcome), and then connect it to the rack and see what happens
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Post by NightMachines on Sept 17, 2018 19:12:08 GMT
I've ordered a 4060, and I'm hoping that a simple voltage divider with a couple resistors will be enough to tame it into the AEM's 0-5V range Going to connect it to an oscilloscope first though, play around, make sure I don't fry a resistor (any advice on how to pick the right size resistor is welcome), and then connect it to the rack and see what happens When you send the signals out of the Olegtron via its minijack ports and into the AE’s CTRL or 4I/O minijack inputs then you’re safe from overvoltage. |
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Post by gaeel on Sept 17, 2018 21:38:02 GMT
When you send the signals out of the Olegtron via its minijack ports and into the AE’s CTRL or 4I/O minijack inputs then you’re safe from overvoltage. Won't I get clipping though? The original 4060 only outputs square signals (IIRC), but the MKII also has a sawtooth. |
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Post by NightMachines on Sept 18, 2018 5:15:01 GMT
Won't I get clipping though? The original 4060 only outputs square signals (IIRC), but the MKII also has a sawtooth. You're right, sorry! Then a passive attenuator will do:  from here: www.doepfer.de/DIY/a100_diy.htm |
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Post by gaeel on Sept 18, 2018 7:04:31 GMT
Yeah, figured I would just go the ol' two 20kΩ resistors route, I don't need the control here since I'm attenuating 9v down to <5V anyway
All this talk of Olegtron and resistors makes me want to build an R2R though, so that's my plan for the day!
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Post by gaeel on Oct 11, 2018 15:44:31 GMT
Turns out, it's easy to bring the Olegtron 4060 into AEM operating ranges: Just power it with the AEM itself The DIY pinout info page shows where to find 5V and GND, connect those to + and GND on the 4060. www.tangiblewaves.com/diy-info.htmlThe 4060 is designed to run on 9V, but it runs fine with anything from 3V to 15V The character of the sound is a little different at 5V, but it's not like you can predict what any patch would sound like in the first place Here's a little jam where I connect outputs of the 4060 to the three inputs of the Nyle filter, and also to automation parameters: instaud.io/2MTw |
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Post by NightMachines on Oct 11, 2018 15:49:36 GMT
Great solution! I have to do that with my old 4060 as well How wide is the Olegtron, by the way. It looks like it fits on top of your 2U blank panel nicely! ... do you think it could be turned into a module?  |
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Post by gaeel on Oct 11, 2018 17:31:24 GMT
It looks like it fits on top of your 2U blank panel nicely! ... do you think it could be turned into a module? It's just a touch too wide with the case, but I was thinking I'd see how it fits with the case removed. I'm not sure I want to lose the ability to throw it in my backpack with a handful of components for some quick noodling on the run though |
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Post by gaeel on Oct 19, 2018 22:03:34 GMT
Finally had the time and energy to play with the Olegtron 4060 Long video, feel free to just flick through: diode.zone/videos/watch/7e6b1880-c7b5-4a71-af72-68a15564f01eIn that video I got two 4060 outputs connected straight to the mixer, and then all the others are connected to other points on the AEM, like CVs, the sequencer, envelopes, syncs, whatever. I didn't really put much thought into it, just went with what sounded good |
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Post by thetechnobear on Oct 20, 2018 13:34:16 GMT
looks like fun |
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Post by channelite on Apr 28, 2021 21:38:32 GMT
I got the mk2 last summer and it's been really fun in combination with the circuitbenders cb55 i made. Here's a rough video of the 4060mk2 being used as a divider. i actually prefer using this to make beats instead of like the digitakt or bitwig.
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Post by channelite on May 15, 2021 18:28:23 GMT
Does anyone know if the 4060mk2 can control two devices at one time? I'm trying use the Rakit Drum synth and a Synare together to make some beats with the divider, but for some reason I can't have both plugged into my mixer at the same time when connected to the 4060mk2. Like only one will play at a time. both devices are connected with TS cables and the sleeve goes to the ground on the 4060. I know I'm missing something.
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