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Post by audiojack on Jul 6, 2019 10:05:45 GMT
Are the new style patch cables available to buy from tangible waves?
The pictures on the shop show the old style ones.
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Post by robertlanger on Jul 6, 2019 11:10:31 GMT
I will put them in the shop this weekend (plus some modules); they are currently in production but I expect them to arrive quite soon.
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Post by audiojack on Jul 11, 2019 15:26:53 GMT
Awesome. The new modules are up but I don't see the new patch wires. Have I missed something?
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Post by toddgriffith on Jul 14, 2019 18:11:37 GMT
Not to take away from Robert in the least, but I just attempted the following and it seems to work great, with the needed larger pin; I took some Cat 5 network cable, stripped the 8 out, trimmed off a bit of the plastic coatings from both ends, then twisted the wire inside, then folded over and twisted again. Made for a larger pin to be inserted and seemed to hold in place a bit better like the new cables (I only did this as I discovered a spare Cat 5 cable in my garage and got to thinking.... certainly don’t want to take anything away from Robert, please understand).
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Post by thetechnobear on Jul 20, 2019 17:19:56 GMT
are the new patch cables there yet ? robertlanger ( will the pictures on the website be updated so we know  ) |
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Post by enki40 on Jul 25, 2019 1:53:38 GMT
Just in case it’s not known the new patch cables are now available. Post was made on the Tangible Waves FaceBook page.
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Post by thetechnobear on Oct 30, 2019 15:03:00 GMT
Anyone now using the new patch cables exclusively. What’s your experience? Tight/ reliable fit? I ask as i need to sort out an AE order, and plan to replace all my patch wires. I really want to get rid of issue of noise when I touch the wires . However, I’ve a sample set of these cables. ( from superbooth time), and had an issue yesterday where the wire was extremely unstable in one module. It felt like the pin was just not long enough. ( it was ok with older patch wires) Disclaimer: this is a sample set, so they may have changed, this was in an older module ( plastic headers) and has been used quite a bit. |
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Post by slowscape on Oct 30, 2019 16:28:19 GMT
I have a recent model of the starter 2. All of the modules were updated with the new patch style, and I was also given all new patch wires. I have no issues.
I've used some standard patch wires that I have laying around and they do exhibit the behavior you describe. So yes. The new wires solve the issues at least for the new style modules.
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Post by robertlanger on Oct 31, 2019 11:21:42 GMT
I have a recent model of the starter 2. All of the modules were updated with the new patch style, and I was also given all new patch wires. I have no issues.
I've used some standard patch wires that I have laying around and they do exhibit the behavior you describe. So yes. The new wires solve the issues at least for the new style modules.
In my experience they bring a significant improvement also for the previous type of sockets! |
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Post by moruial on Oct 31, 2019 11:32:55 GMT
The new patch wires are great and I had no problem with them whatsoever. I have to say that I prefer to use them in the old module's sockets as they fit vey well in them.
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Post by rodney on Oct 31, 2019 21:56:36 GMT
I love the new cables. They feel good to handle and are resistant to tangling. They definitely bring the AE a little closer to the delicious feeling of inserting a good quality jack plug into a socket. (such interactions should have that satisfying finality of closing the door of a German automobile)
I have, however, had to come out of denial and wear my glasses when patching my AE modular. The price of miniaturization! 
The new cables' pins have a diameter of around 0.84mm compared to roughly 0.76mm in the case of common electronic prototyping jumper cables. This makes them sit more nicely in the more common style header sockets found in the old AE modules as well as in Arduino boards, Raspberry Pi GPIO headers etc.
The new header sockets with the nice, tubular machine pin connectors, fit snugly with the new patch cables' pins. They can also still hold the old-style patch/jumper cable pins quite well.
One problem, noted already in the DIY discussions, is that the more commonly-available female machine pin header sockets from electronic stores usually have a diameter too small for the new patch cable pins, so it is better to use the more common headers in DIY projects.
robertlanger, would it be possible to make the female machine pin headers you use available in the store for DIY fanatics who must have the lovely shiny new ones?
I have been searching but have, so far ,not found a suitable header online. For those also hunting, the specs for a header need to have a mating pin diameter that has a range of about 0.76mm to 0.84mm. Usually, they only show the lower limit of the range where we really need to know the upper limit. The common 'snap-off' variety of machine pin headers have all been too small for the new patch cable pins.
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Post by admin on Oct 31, 2019 22:07:08 GMT
. However, I’ve a sample set of these cables. ( from superbooth time), and had an issue yesterday where the wire was extremely unstable in one module. It felt like the pin was just not long enough. I have both the sample wires and the new wires and the pins are longer now, so you wouldn't have that issue. |
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Post by Lugia on Nov 1, 2019 1:25:56 GMT
The new cables' pins have a diameter of around 0.84mm compared to roughly 0.76mm in the case of common electronic prototyping jumper cables. This makes them sit more nicely in the more common style header sockets found in the old AE modules as well as in Arduino boards, Raspberry Pi GPIO headers etc. Hmmm...that's interesting news. I already have a Folktek Mescaline on hand that uses the older-style headers, and the protoboard wires that Folktek supplied are sort of...meh. Wiggly, not secure, that sort of thing. So if the new AE patchwires improve things in the older AE modules, it sounds like they should be just right for the Mescaline as well! Cool!
Of course, this means I'll have to get buttloads more AE patchwires, but hey...  |
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Post by thetechnobear on Nov 1, 2019 15:39:58 GMT
I have both the sample wires and the new wires and the pins are longer now, so you wouldn't have that issue. thanks, cool to hear they are bit longer, would definitely help. |
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Post by NightMachines on Feb 24, 2020 14:35:15 GMT
A video about cables?!
Yes.
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Post by bea5t on Apr 2, 2020 7:08:03 GMT
One of my best investments. To all beginners: Buy these cables and you avoid frustration. |
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Post by admin on Apr 2, 2020 8:30:06 GMT
One of my best investments. To all beginners: Buy these cables and you avoid frustration.Absolutely, in my opinion the most groundbreaking invention from Robert By the way, all Starter Systems include those new cables. |
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Post by bea5t on Apr 2, 2020 8:57:02 GMT
One of my best investments. To all beginners: Buy these cables and you avoid frustration.Absolutely, in my opinion the most groundbreaking invention from Robert By the way, all Starter Systems include those new cables. absolutely groundbreaking ... full approval! thx Robert  |
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