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Post by humpink on Sept 3, 2018 11:43:42 GMT
So i had this idea that it would be nice to not only have cv inputs which protect ae modular from overvoltage (cut off everything above 5v) but to also have the option to scale down the input cv, so that you can use the full range. So i looked at the cv inputs from the master module and made some additions: Seems to work, at least in LT Spice. But i am wondering now about two things: 1) Is this a valid / usefull design at all? 2) If you want to use the input for pitch cv then you would disable the scaling by turning the pot to the left, so that the resistance between r1 and the buffer is zero. But the pot is still in the circuit. Would that add an error to pitch cv or doesn't it matter? (maybe one could just add a switch then)
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Post by knockman on Sept 10, 2018 4:41:01 GMT
Hi humpink, Thanks for sharing this. Regarding the input wiring, is there a reason to have the signal connected to the ring ('right') of the jack socket? Surely connecting to tip ('left') is more usual? (unless I'm missing something, of course) I was thinking of making some multiples with attenuated signals to connect external cv to my AE modular and was planning to use an old design from MFOS: musicfromouterspace.com/analogsynth_new/OLDIESBUTGOODIES/VOLTAGEMIXER/voltagedist2.html...but having it scale-able for the full range within 0-5v would be awesome. Have you actually built this yet? Cheers
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Post by humpink on Sept 10, 2018 15:00:11 GMT
Hi, concerning the input wiring, there is no reason, just didn't know better how to draw it I did not build it yet, only ran some simulations in spice, where it seemed to work. The plan is to do a module for the keystep and also one for the beatstep. Pitch CV will be like the CV Input in the Power Module because scaling makes no sense there, Mod CV will be this design and gate / trigger / clock will be a couple of resistors and transistors. At the moment i am pretty busy with other stuff but i hope i can do some building / testing at the weekend
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Post by knockman on Sept 11, 2018 21:59:22 GMT
Great! Sounds very promising - I look forward to hearing more.
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Post by admin on Sept 18, 2018 22:15:42 GMT
Hello humpink, I'd be interested to see your design in action. Did you manage to setup a prototype yet?
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Post by humpink on Nov 4, 2018 18:15:18 GMT
Hi, still haven't tried it yet because there was other stuff in the way (new job, rearranging the man-cave, building the lego millenium falcon,...) but i finally ordered the missing parts today, so in the next days i will be able to figure out if it works
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Post by los on May 27, 2019 6:30:16 GMT
Hello! Any new progress on this idea?
To me--its the KEY part of AE being able to go to the next level... Eurorack CV and back, let alone some other formats (Hz) if they're still around. I'd like to use my BeatStep Pro to drive the modular, and solo over it (hello OR module!) etc. Ideas for the switching module too.
I'm sorry I don't have the HW experience to help!
G.
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Post by admin on May 27, 2019 7:35:43 GMT
To me--its the KEY part of AE being able to go to the next level... Eurorack CV and back Hi los, using the master module cv and audio i/o and also the IO module, it is already quite easy to connect the AE to Eurorack or other sources. You can see this in the videos of thetechnobear ( forum.aemodular.com/post/937 ) and I have also connected my AE to my Eurorack in one of my videos ( the5thvolt.com/2019/01/22/patch-challenge-02/ ). The I/O inputs of the Master module and IO module are protected against over voltages (at least to +-12V) so you should be safe to patch it straight from Eurorack.
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Post by ben on May 27, 2019 8:54:41 GMT
Here's a great shop for DIY'ers, where you can find some useful chips, like ADSR, NOISE, LFO's etc. And it has documentation pages with wiring and so on. electricdruid.net/Currently built just Noise ("PentaNoise") module, the chip is super easy to manage and has 5 outputs (!!). Still have laying around LFO and VCADSR, waiting for their turn to be soldered. But, getting back to the thread - here, on page 6 you can find a simple diagram for voltage protection from modular to 5V. This one works for Gate/trigger signals, don't know about other uses. Haven't built one yet, but seems to be a simple soldering job. electricdruid.net/datasheets/ENVGEN8Datasheet.pdf
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Post by thetechnobear on May 27, 2019 17:44:25 GMT
Hello! Any new progress on this idea? To me--its the KEY part of AE being able to go to the next level... Eurorack CV and back, let alone some other formats (Hz) if they're still around. I'd like to use my BeatStep Pro to drive the modular, and solo over it (hello OR module!) etc. Ideas for the switching module too. I'm sorry I don't have the HW experience to help! G. as admin said, most of the time I have my AE modular connected to my Eurorack... sometimes to send CV around, other times just for the audio , so it can go via FX and then on to my mixer. its great, the master module has 2 audio I/O and 2 cv I/O , thats often enough... but I really like the 4IO module, as that can do either audio or CV - and thats been enough for me, so far. generally, this all just works... as long as you dont mind CV clipping to 0..5v, if you want audio into eurorack, you'll need to consider audio levels though. (though this is true of passing any instrument at line level into eurorack)
the main thing (and this related to OP) I needed to think about were: - longer patch cables, to go between AE and Eurorack - attenuation and amplification of CV, you might want to scale voltages (as per OP) - I built a fonictronik cascade and befaco AB+C which will amplify/attenuate/invert and offset CV (and audio) - very useful modules for eurorack, that can be used to ensure AE voltages are scaled to 0..5v where needed. - amplification of audio, quite useful to have some kind of 'input module' in eurorack which raises from line level to modular level - that said, I use a Koma Fx field kit (or sometimes field kit), or a VCA (veils) which also have gain on them. any mixer will allow you to attenuate audio down to AE levels to avoid distortion. not sure where you are on your eurorack journey, but if this is 'your next level',so your beginning - Id just say mixers, attenuators etc are all things you'll end up needing in your eurorack anyway, so they are not really 'extras' for AE, the only thing is when you get them is to bare in mind your AE usage (and so ensure they have gain)
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Post by humpink on Jul 22, 2019 19:51:26 GMT
Hello! Any new progress on this idea? To me--its the KEY part of AE being able to go to the next level... Eurorack CV and back, let alone some other formats (Hz) if they're still around. I'd like to use my BeatStep Pro to drive the modular, and solo over it (hello OR module!) etc. Ideas for the switching module too. I'm sorry I don't have the HW experience to help! G. Hi, sorry, no progress so far, but i just haven't been into music & diy for a while. Since i know myself i will not make any promises, but in case i start to work again on this i will surely post the results here.
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