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Post by thetechnobear on Dec 17, 2019 16:28:53 GMT
am i correct in saying the cases do NOT come with bus cables? (it be probably a good idea to make this explicit on the case description, like it does for the hinge kit) I only ask, as I when I got the eurorack adapter... I also ordered a bus cable, and then found it came with one, so ended up with 2  btw: what is the rough lead time at the moment? |
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Post by rockysmalls on Dec 17, 2019 17:08:16 GMT
no.. i think it WAS the case (sic) that the original cases needed bus cables purchased seperately, but it seems that with the redone cases with their mini circuit and 2 cable set up now come with the required short and long bus. ( or 2 x short & long bus for 2 rows ). i think those cables are just there in the shop for people that have kickstarter cases or acquired one 2nd hand.. slightly confusing but not necessarily time to consign them to the ‘legacy’ page..
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Post by lukylutte on Dec 17, 2019 17:28:05 GMT
Well, seems that I'll have some extra one if not needed with the new cases..  |
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Post by thetechnobear on Dec 17, 2019 17:41:47 GMT
ok, seems like its not a dumb question after all ... seems like we need clarification  also... is the original Master module ok, in the new cases? does it have hole on the side for the outlet? or would it foul the hinge kit? I've got 3 ae cases 1x 2 row, 2x single - already, but it would be nice to switch these out for a newer style and hinged. but if I need a cases + ribbon cables + hinge + master unit.. looks like i could be talking a lot of euros.... so trying to work out what i can salvage if the master units an issue, I could no doubt buy a socket, and solder a new 9v socket on top... if ribbons are not supplied, perhaps I can reuse the ones from my current 4 rows (I assume i can just cut the 'L' bit off. ) then I could order 2 x standard 2 row cases and hinge kit... |
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Post by admin on Dec 17, 2019 21:57:48 GMT
My understanding is that the cases come without the bus cables.
I'm also thinking about how best to expand and as my system grows I actually want to have more MIDI sequenceable voices coming from my AE. This is now finally possible with the new Master module which lets you choose the MIDI channel!
So my advice would be to get a new 2 row case, 2 bus cables and a new Master module. Then use a power splitter to share the same power supply between the two cases to make sure they share the same ground. That way you can run two separate MIDI channels in your AE system!
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Post by robertlanger on Dec 18, 2019 8:04:52 GMT
I think I can contribute something to this discussion... ;-)
The cases come WITHOUT bus cables.
The Eurorack adapter frames contain the bus cable and the ribbon cable from MASTER to Euro bus.
The older MASTER modules work also in the new cases; if you have the MASTER with the power socket on the side it's no problem, because the new cases have the side hole prepared as a part to break out.
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Post by robertlanger on Dec 18, 2019 8:07:39 GMT
My understanding is that the cases come without the bus cables. I'm also thinking about how best to expand and as my system grows I actually want to have more MIDI sequenceable voices coming from my AE. This is now finally possible with the new Master module which lets you choose the MIDI channel! So my advice would be to get a new 2 row case, 2 bus cables and a new Master module. Then use a power splitter to share the same power supply between the two cases to make sure they share the same ground. That way you can run two separate MIDI channels in your AE system! I want to add that two cases connected via the hinge kit can run well with ONE MASTER module; not necessary to have one for each case. I see, all this expansion variants and their pros and cons should be documented... |
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Post by rockysmalls on Dec 18, 2019 12:56:05 GMT
oh! well it would seem Robert was extra generous when sending me a new style 20x2 case earlier this year... but then i did send some cash for one extra 20 row bus cable figuring i would use the one i already had from a 1 x 20 case .. i feel super privileged ( a rare feeling for uk citizens these days ) i just presumed it was normal procedure partly due to the pictures of the cables in the shop still being the old single piece cables but i did wonder why they were still there!! sorry for confusion,, Robert should obviously charge anything he needs to.. the cases are ridiculously cheap as it is.. good job this forum is here.. to clarify things when dingbats like me open their mouths unwisely ;-) |
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Post by thetechnobear on Dec 18, 2019 14:26:39 GMT
cool, I assumed as much... as i said the Eurorack adapter was the only thing that caused me doubt. I do think updating the description, with a link to the appropriate bus cable would be a good idea. (if someone day forgot to order the bus cable they would be pretty disappointed when it turned up ) I want to add that two cases connected via the hinge kit can run well with ONE MASTER module; not necessary to have one for each case. I see, all this expansion variants and their pros and cons should be documented... , does the hinge kit foul with the power adapter on the side? ... Id prefer it on the side if I'm honest. also am i right in saying I could reuse my existing ribbon cables if i order the 'standard size' cases - I have 3 straight , and 1 of the L shaped one also, in the new cases the 2U (top and bottom of 2 row case), does this need an a short cable as it cannot be attached to the bus cable on the other side of the pcb, or do you just cut a bit off the same bus cable? So my advice would be to get a new 2 row case, 2 bus cables and a new Master module. Then use a power splitter to share the same power supply between the two cases to make sure they share the same ground. That way you can run two separate MIDI channels in your AE system! I already have a racklink and also a spare one two case (standard), and also a spare master module... midi im kind of ok at the moment, as I supplement it with CV via the master module and a 4IO. (also Im likely to create a custom MIDI module over the winter, which will expose a lot more cv outputs) anyway, if I can use the existing bus cables, and master modules ... the 2 x 2 standard + hinge kit wont break the bank, and will be a nice tidy setup |
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