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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 12, 2020 13:22:29 GMT
i had the honour of looking after Mr Tudor for 2 days back in the 90’s , in Amsterdam whilst he was waiting for his assistant to arrive from the US to work on a Merce Cunningham show.. it was post heart attack and he was a bit fragile but a really lovely guy. We went shopping for rubber stamps at The Stempel Temple ... and, of course, guitar fx pedals at Dirk Witte.. to be taken apart and wired into his neural synthesis boxes.. It's easy to forget that our heroes are often just ordinary people who are happy to meet you for a tea and chat. Ok, some are jerks, but just find other heroes in that case.  indeed, and fragile... i must have had to throw myself in front of at least 3 maniac Dutch cyclists who expected him to leap out of the way like a gazelle just because they rang their tiny bell.. what part of hunched over old man walking with a stick at half a snails pace don’t they understand? |
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Post by morgs on Sept 13, 2020 10:49:40 GMT
This is super exciting news! I'd love to order a kit quick question about difficulty. For context, I've successfully soldered several entry DIY kits at this point (e.g. Bastle Kastle/Tea-Kick, MTM mikrophonie) but royally screwed up a Dreadbox Antiphon which has made me allergic to DIY for a while now. Do you think this kit is safe treading?! can probably chime in... but i would say it comes under the ‘fairly easy’ category, 9 potentiometers, a good number of resistors ( all the same so no way to mix them up, two 8 pin headers and one IC. if you’ve done a Kastle then yr ok, this is nowhere near as small or cramped as that tiny board. that saying, mr Wonkystuffs prebuilds are solid.. so absolutely worth the extra £15... which is what i went for in the end. Thanks rockysmalls, super helpful. Cost isn't the deal breaker...it's the aspect of liking to solder but not always obtaining a desired outcome :p |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 13, 2020 11:25:48 GMT
namke can probably chime in... but i would say it comes under the ‘fairly easy’ category, 9 potentiometers, a good number of resistors ( all the same so no way to mix them up, two 8 pin headers and one IC. if you’ve done a Kastle then yr ok, this is nowhere near as small or cramped as that tiny board. that saying, mr Wonkystuffs prebuilds are solid.. so absolutely worth the extra £15... which is what i went for in the end. Thanks rockysmalls , super helpful. Cost isn't the deal breaker...it's the aspect of liking to solder but not always obtaining a desired outcome  yes... that was exactly my reasoning... i CAN solder... but it’s a bit hit and miss even now i have got a 60w iron rather than the cheapo 30w ones i was using. there’s always one pesky cold soldered joint causing a problem afterwards when i give it a go. if yr in the UK John is not too tardy at posting and i got mine less than 48 hours after him shipping it. |
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Post by namke on Sept 13, 2020 15:19:45 GMT
Thanks rockysmalls FYI  the build instructions are here — I've done them as a PDF so that I can modify them in case anything isn't clear, or there's a mistake… I don't think it's particularly difficult, but I am getting a bit bored of making them!  |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 13, 2020 16:53:03 GMT
Thanks rockysmalls FYI the build instructions are here — I've done them as a PDF so that I can modify them in case anything isn't clear, or there's a mistake… I don't think it's particularly difficult, but I am getting a bit bored of making them! only 5 more to go... then you can cold turkey from the solder fume high! |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 13, 2020 16:55:50 GMT
Thanks rockysmalls FYI the build instructions are here — I've done them as a PDF so that I can modify them in case anything isn't clear, or there's a mistake… I don't think it's particularly difficult, but I am getting a bit bored of making them! john, those links are going round in circles... no access to any pdf ,, at least on ios , safari there isn’t?? |
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Post by MikMo on Sept 13, 2020 19:06:27 GMT
Same for me (chrome)
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Post by Jihel on Sept 13, 2020 19:16:59 GMT
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Post by namke on Sept 13, 2020 21:59:04 GMT
Ugh, yeah - sorry -- my fault for not reviewing my changes  Hopefully it works now? (One day I'll maybe get the hang of wordpress!) |
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Post by Jihel on Sept 14, 2020 7:38:51 GMT
Ugh, yeah - sorry -- my fault for not reviewing my changes Hopefully it works now? (One day I'll maybe get the hang of wordpress!) Yes, "PDF here" works ! Thx ! |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 14, 2020 10:29:08 GMT
Ugh, yeah - sorry -- my fault for not reviewing my changes Hopefully it works now? (One day I'll maybe get the hang of wordpress!) that’s a very thorough assembly pdf! .. now i’ve seen it i would probably have gone for the kit version.. no room to fit another matrix in the case right now though |
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Post by spacedog on Sept 14, 2020 19:09:55 GMT
I wobbled on about third party modules and I hadn't even bought one... well, now I have and the Space Dogs shall be playing with it mightily sometime soon. If they get their paws working hard, it may even form the basis of a track for the new compilation |
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Post by spacedog on Sept 19, 2020 12:05:00 GMT
I wobbled on about third party modules and I hadn't even bought one... well, now I have and the Space Dogs shall be playing with it mightily sometime soon. If they get their paws working hard, it may even form the basis of a track for the new compilation And here it is arrived and exceptionally well packed. Many thanks, namke, I shall install later and have a play. I will have to decide which module(s) are coming out as I am jam packed |
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Post by Lugia on Sept 20, 2020 1:05:55 GMT
Mine's on order now as well...built one, though, as I don't quite have workbench space here yet. Going to hold this for "cab 5", which is mainly for controller-type devices and is something I'm planning for 2021.
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Post by spacedog on Sept 20, 2020 9:03:07 GMT
I wobbled on about third party modules and I hadn't even bought one... well, now I have and the Space Dogs shall be playing with it mightily sometime soon. If they get their paws working hard, it may even form the basis of a track for the new compilation And here it is arrived and exceptionally well packed. Many thanks, namke , I shall install later and have a play. I will have to decide which module(s) are coming out as I am jam packed It's in, and the 4I/O and the 2SIGNALAMP have both gone into my storage box, joining quite a few others now. Whilst I accept that it's "easy" to swap modules around, personally I find it "fiddly as f**K" , so any semblance of design goes out of the window.
I did think about just getting a ribbon cable and connecting my spares up if I needed one or more of them, then I wondered about connecting the ribbon to a connection cable for neatness, but t I don't think you can buy the connection cable unless it's part of the Joint Kit, so by the time I've messed about I may as well just buy another case and I don't want to do that. The modules are staying in the box.
The build quality of the mm33 is very high, it's weighty and solid and the front panel is very nicely done. The pots are much kinder on the fingers as well. It's a lovely job, namke - I'll play with it this afternoon, I really should be thinking about a track for our compilation, as should you all |
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Post by spacedog on Sept 20, 2020 9:42:26 GMT
And here it is arrived and exceptionally well packed. Many thanks, namke , I shall install later and have a play. I will have to decide which module(s) are coming out as I am jam packed It's in, and the 4I/O and the 2SIGNALAMP have both gone into my storage box, joining quite a few others now. Whilst I accept that it's "easy" to swap modules around, personally I find it "fiddly as f**K" , so any semblance of design goes out of the window.
[...] I finally played with Tangible Grid and as you can see my system really has developed based on where there was a space, or what was easy to move. It doesn't really make any difference, of course, I can pretty much get between anything easily and the RACKLINK extensions are always helpful if I can't. I rather like my "Black Hole" in the middle of the system. Sadly, my home made Red Panel had to go in the box as well.
The estimated cost was interesting as well, I could have managed a decent case and maybe two of the modules that I was considering for my Musique Concrète system for the same cost in Eurorack. The new Behringer modules are different, but that's more bread and butter modular.
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 20, 2020 10:46:21 GMT
And here it is arrived and exceptionally well packed. Many thanks, namke , I shall install later and have a play. I will have to decide which module(s) are coming out as I am jam packed It's in, and the 4I/O and the 2SIGNALAMP have both gone into my storage box, joining quite a few others now. Whilst I accept that it's "easy" to swap modules around, personally I find it "fiddly as f**K" , so any semblance of design goes out of the window.
I did think about just getting a ribbon cable and connecting my spares up if I needed one or more of them, then I wondered about connecting the ribbon to a connection cable for neatness, but t I don't think you can buy the connection cable unless it's part of the Joint Kit, so by the time I've messed about I may as well just buy another case and I don't want to do that. The modules are staying in the box.
The build quality of the mm33 is very high, it's weighty and solid and the front panel is very nicely done. The pots are much kinder on the fingers as well. It's a lovely job, namke - I'll play with it this afternoon, I really should be thinking about a track for our compilation, as should you all we is... we is! not sure about binning the Signal amp... i’ve found that one the most useful and nicest sounding gain stage to get the MM33 levels up to feedback thresholds ... but then again you might be doing an entirely different music in another kitchen alltogether ! |
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Post by jumpinjohnathon on Sept 20, 2020 13:34:47 GMT
Just placed an order, am looking forward to playing around with it.
Keep us upto date on any other ideas and/or concepts.
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Post by namke on Sept 20, 2020 19:41:55 GMT
Many thanks for the feedback spacedog – glad that it arrived safely as well interesting comment from rockysmalls too… do you think the mm33 would be better with a bit more gain? It’s just above unity right now, but with a change of three resistors the gain could be increased. Perhaps for version 1.2? (Or perhaps a ‘mod list’ for it would be useful?) |
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Post by namke on Sept 20, 2020 19:43:49 GMT
Oh, and many thanks for the order jumpinjohnathon — construction day planned for tomorrow… |
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Post by Lugia on Sept 20, 2020 22:40:59 GMT
Many thanks for the feedback spacedog – glad that it arrived safely as well interesting comment from rockysmalls too… do you think the mm33 would be better with a bit more gain? It’s just above unity right now, but with a change of three resistors the gain could be increased. Perhaps for version 1.2? (Or perhaps a ‘mod list’ for it would be useful?) Definitely mod list. My intentions for it are for paralleling/reproportioning modulation signals, so I need the amplification factor at its normal Unity-and-a-smidge. However, having the info handy would certainly be useful, just in case... |
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Post by rockysmalls on Sept 21, 2020 13:13:54 GMT
Many thanks for the feedback spacedog – glad that it arrived safely as well interesting comment from rockysmalls too… do you think the mm33 would be better with a bit more gain? It’s just above unity right now, but with a change of three resistors the gain could be increased. Perhaps for version 1.2? (Or perhaps a ‘mod list’ for it would be useful?) hi Namke,, yes, absolutely we could do with having any info on what resistors to change to up the gain in the Wiki ( and what it might mean signalwise ) i would be happy to give the gain mod a go.. just got some more headers so currently the soldering iron is out and i am revamping legacy modules to the newer patch friendly sockets it wasn’t quite so much about the amount of gain in reference to the SignalAmp module... it was more to do with the ‘colouration’ - interesting distortions etc.. on the subject of mods i will email you about a thought i just had ;-l |
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Post by MikMo on Sept 21, 2020 14:25:33 GMT
My wife just texted me that there is a "flat black package from the UK" in the mail.
I predict solder in my near future.
Mikael
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Post by namke on Sept 21, 2020 16:12:40 GMT
My wife just texted me that there is a "flat black package from the UK" in the mail. I predict solder in my near future. Mikael exciting! The first run is all sold out now, so I'm going to be ordering some new PCBs soon… I also should get some of my other designs prepped! |
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Post by blackhairrolledindriedblood on Sept 21, 2020 17:54:53 GMT
I've been waiting a whole week until payday today (actually cleared last night) - hoping there would be one left! Now waiting for delivery. Oh the excitement of it all!!
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